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    Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Not at all. What I am saying is that no matter what anyone presents to you, the strategy is then to claim that one has
    1 - presented correlation and not causation
    2 - other factors are present that could explain the situation
    3 - you simply reject the evidence as it does not fully explain the situation to a satisfactory scientific standard

    So if you would be good enough to provide for me the methodology which can separate race from all other factors, I would be more than happy to satisfy your demands for evidence that will stand up to even the harshest and most pessimistic skeptic.

    I await your methodology.
    I'll tell you what produce to me one way the black people are held down in this country. We will start with that.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, no black can succeed even in 2014.

    Just ignore the fact that the most powerful man in this country whose mother was once forced to accept food stamps because she wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth is black.
    What you see here is people who have been forced that a narrative for so long having to come to terms with the fact that narrative is completely false. I don't know if they ever looked into history but I think the same thing happen for a few other groups in America. Admittedly the struggle of say the Irish, was not nearly as bad, once one was elected president... The argument pretty much died out.

    Just seems to me that if you were a person of a darker complexion America you would except this and then make yourself one of the greatest success stories and United States history. But then again I haven't been forced that a narrative that tells me that my race is what holds me back. That I am a victim of anything other than my own self.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    I'll tell you what produce to me one way the black people are held down in this country. We will start with that.
    Do you know about slavery?
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you know about slavery?
    You mean that thing that was outlawed 150 years ago?
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    ...and you know he wasn't shot with his hands up with what specific evidence?

    " Hands up, don't shoot ".....


    Wow ! You actually believe in that nonsense ?

    The prosecutor explained very clearly in his press conference that thanks to the physical evidence these false narratives had been exposed as absolute lies.

    Where were you ? Out ' protesting " ?

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    " Hands up, don't shoot ".....


    Wow ! You actually believe in that nonsense ?

    The prosecutor explained very clearly in his press conference that thanks to the physical evidence these false narratives had been exposed as absolute lies.

    Where were you ? Out ' protesting " ?
    I'll wait for you to show the evidence that put absolute doubt away that he did not have his hands up. TIA

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you know about slavery?
    I will also add is not relevant in 2014.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That was YOUR statement. I said OF ANY RACE. There are people with IQ's in the 80's. In fact it might shock you but if 100 is the average, then a hell of a lot of people - half to be exact are at 100 or below. Nothing racist about that.

    The sad reality is that when people of low IQ are compounded by all sorts of other social problems like racism and other factors that hit minorities especially hard besetting them ad handicapping them - it does indeed become a factor that is very very hard to overcome unlike white people who do not have those same factors in addition to a lower IQ.

    Sorry, but that is just the way it is and to deny the role race and racism plays in it is the worst sort of RACISM of all.
    I guess if someone disagrees in the slightest that makes them a racist for being skeptical of a very broad/general characterisation of a large country? There are large swaths of white America that are in the same boat as blacks; ie them country folk, white trash, peasants. Many west coast white people treat southern speaking white folk like they are idiots.

    This assertion that white privilege is universal and that it causes a absolute situation is much too simplistic to be of any value. It all depends where these white people live. Myself I have always lived in poor neighborhoods, yes I am of European American genetics, but because of the small amount of native American in me and my location people mistake me for hispanic sometimes. I am as white as white can be (proud of my heritage btw even if people think that I am racist for it) yet I fail to see where I have lived a privileged life at anytime in my life. And I have been deeply involved in minority neighborhoods most of my life, I know what it race bias looks like.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    You mean that thing that was outlawed 150 years ago?
    yes - slavery.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    I will also add is not relevant in 2014.
    How long did it take you and your family to overcome the effects of being held in slavery?
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