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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    She denies the existence of systemic privilege. In her world, the US is a magical place of equal opportunity and unicorns. Such a view makes racism so much easier.
    Well for my two cents I would love it to be the world she believes exists rather then the one that does exist. It certainly helps one explain all the unpleasantness of life. But being a Pollyanna does not solve any problems or help people who are already disadvantaged and badly need help.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's a stupid request. One need not prove that racism is what held an individual down in order to see clearly the systemic privilege that still exists in the US.

    What do you want, examples of the victims of racism? Want an example of someone being killed because they were black?
    This is 2014...not 1962. You are really going to argue that people who are black do not have access to the SAME opportunities that a white person would of the same socioeconomic rung? You can't prove that? You don't have evidence of that? Then it is a garbage theory.

    Meanwhile, those of us who ACTUALLY believe someone with a darker skin tone is equal...and doesn't need to be treated special or different because of their skin color.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    This is 2014...not 1962. You are really going to argue that people who are black do not have access to the SAME opportunities that a white person would of the same socioeconomic rung? You can't prove that? You don't have evidence of that? Then it is a garbage theory.

    Meanwhile, those of us who ACTUALLY believe someone with a darker skin tone is equal...and doesn't need to be treated special or different because of their skin color.
    Denying systemic privilege makes racism easy. Enjoy spewing racist crap.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Really, mind telling us this conclusion?

    He wasn't shot with his hands up, he wasn't shot in the back.

    Pretty much debunked all of the perjury these witnesses will be getting away with.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    He wasn't shot with his hands up, he wasn't shot in the back.

    Pretty much debunked all of the perjury these witnesses will be getting away with.
    ...and you know he wasn't shot with his hands up with what specific evidence?

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    This is 2014...not 1962. You are really going to argue that people who are black do not have access to the SAME opportunities that a white person would of the same socioeconomic rung? You can't prove that? You don't have evidence of that? Then it is a garbage theory.

    Meanwhile, those of us who ACTUALLY believe someone with a darker skin tone is equal...and doesn't need to be treated special or different because of their skin color.
    No, no black can succeed even in 2014.

    Just ignore the fact that the most powerful man in this country whose mother was once forced to accept food stamps because she wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth is black.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Well for my two cents I would love it to be the world she believes exists rather then the one that does exist. It certainly helps one explain all the unpleasantness of life. But being a Pollyanna does not solve any problems or help people who are already disadvantaged and badly need help.

    And I kind of like unicorns - especially the ones with the pink manes.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I love to watch a good circle jerk.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sure thing - happy to do it. Could you first provide for me or anyone else a solid methodology we can apply which can isolate one factor such as race from all the other factors in a persons life that might contribute to their downfall?

    I will wait.
    So what you're saying is that this make-believe thing we should all just accept and believe because we are told to. You don't have proof you don't have a pattern. You got one for poverty. Not race. What does that tell me? The problem is falsely attributed to race and racists try to capitalize on that. B they politicians or whatever.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    So what you're saying is that this make-believe thing we should all just accept and believe because we are told to. You don't have proof you don't have a pattern. You got one for poverty. Not race. What does that tell me? The problem is falsely attributed to race and racists try to capitalize on that. B they politicians or whatever.
    Not at all. What I am saying is that no matter what anyone presents to you, the strategy is then to claim that one has
    1 - presented correlation and not causation
    2 - other factors are present that could explain the situation
    3 - you simply reject the evidence as it does not fully explain the situation to a satisfactory scientific standard

    So if you would be good enough to provide for me the methodology which can separate race from all other factors, I would be more than happy to satisfy your demands for evidence that will stand up to even the harshest and most pessimistic skeptic.

    I await your methodology.
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