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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Whom do you blame, specifically?
    The ones doing it. Same as anyone with critical thinking skills would.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    The jury has apparently made its decision. Announcement will be made sometime later today.
    The unarm shooting was overkill. To fire ten times and also to fire at the head (obviously to kill rather than immobilize the teen) who was quite a length away and with no weapon.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you were in fact a lawyer you'd have to know the differences and where they both may seek to find or not find probable cause to bind over, how they get there and the methods allowed are different enough to debunk your comments about how it all works.

    Watching a preliminary hearing isn't going to inform you of the grand jury process.

    As to that last, duh! That's one of the differences. The other is that the defendant's lawyer is present at a preliminary hearing. Evidentiary rules are also different. A grand jury has more investigatory power.

    LOL....you really need to read more carefully. You are in such a rush to try to engage in your knee-jerk reactionism that you aren't comprehending the post you are responding to. Sorry....but major fail on your part here.
    I never once tried to say that they are the same thing. Again....read carefully.....I am talking about the STANDARD OF PROOF. The STANDARD OF PROOF is the level of proof necessary to "bind someone over for trial" in a preliminary hearing or to issue an indictment in a grand jury proceeding. A District Attorney can choose to go by way of Grand Jury or Preliminary hearing. The STANDARD OF PROOF is the same in each instance.

    Never said that watching a preliminary hearing is going to inform someone of the grand jury process. Again.....read carefully..... What I said is that the STANDARD OF PROOF, i.e. Probable Cause is the same in each. A person CAN watch a preliminary hearing and CAN observe what a trial judge deems PROBABLE CAUSE to bind someone over for trial at the end of a preliminary hearing. The point being.....people can understand just how low the STANDARD OF PROOF for probable cause is.

    Again....never said that the defendant's lawyer isn't present at a preliminary hearing....read carefully before responding.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You can't lump the protestors with the looters.
    They do that themselves. Look at how they self describe events. "Violent protest".

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Breaking News: Rioting calmed down today as protesters prepared for Black Friday mayhem.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The unarm shooting was overkill. To fire ten times and also to fire at the head (obviously to kill rather than immobilize the teen) who was quite a length away and with no weapon.
    Well, the suspect was huge and regardless of what people might think size plays a part in how people see you. If you're a huge ****ing dude and you go around charging people the chances you will be shot and killed are greater than if you were a smaller individual and did the same thing. Why? Because big ****ing people can **** up a greater percentage of the population and therefore people become scared easier around them. Of course, this dude here loses some points for being as dumb as a brick wall, but all the same, he was huge and charging a cop. He pretty much killed himself.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The unarm shooting was overkill. To fire ten times and also to fire at the head (obviously to kill rather than immobilize the teen) who was quite a length away and with no weapon.
    Did you even bother to read the testimony before you came to that opinion?

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Breaking News: Rioting calmed down today as protesters prepared for Black Friday mayhem.
    Except now they have nowhere to shop. Doh!

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    They do that themselves. Look at how they self describe events. "Violent protest".
    Exactly who described the events as "violent protest"? The mass media?

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No, not at all. Just spend an hour in any courtroom across America and see what kind of evidence constitutes "probable cause" to hold someone to answer by the average judge. I think your eyes would be opened.


    Generalizations and opinions....

    Irrelevant to the GJs decision to NOT indict Officer Wilson.

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