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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not the same thing and you should know it.
    Again.....try reading more carefully. Never said they were the same thing. However, the STANDARD OF PROOF (Probable Cause) is the same for both. DOH!

    Oh....BTW....just so you know. The general public isn't allowed to sit in and observe grand jury proceedings. They ARE however, allowed to watch pretty much any preliminary hearing in an open courtroom.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Again.....try reading more carefully. Never said they were the same thing. However, the STANDARD OF PROOF (Probable Cause) is the same for both. DOH!

    Oh....BTW....just so you know. The general public isn't allowed to sit in and observe grand jury proceedings. They ARE however, allowed to watch pretty much any preliminary hearing in an open courtroom.
    If you were in fact a lawyer you'd have to know the differences and where they both may seek to find or not find probable cause to bind over, how they get there and the methods allowed are different enough to debunk your comments about how it all works.

    Watching a preliminary hearing isn't going to inform you of the grand jury process.

    As to that last, duh! That's one of the differences. The other is that the defendant's lawyer is present at a preliminary hearing. Evidentiary rules are also different. A grand jury has more investigatory power.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Perceived injustice is a threat to blacks collectively because systemic privilege exists.
    Sorry. But system privilege is crap if you think it is based on race. Systemic poverty? Sure. I agree and won't argue that. But to claim race is the factor in 2014? That is a joke. The only people who perpetuate that cycle are the ones who try to use their, culture, race, criminal records, or WHATEVER as an excuse as to why they failed.

    Sorry. I don't big into that. Plenty of historic examples including the president as to why RACE is not what holds you down. It is YOU. Stop trying to excuse this victim complex. It is bull****.

    Unless you are arguing that the black community is undermining themselves and their credibility to perceived injustice instead of addressing real problems. Them I agree.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Sorry. But system privilege is crap if you think it is based on race.
    Gross ignorance.


    Plenty of historic examples including the president as to why RACE is not what holds you down.
    More of the same.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    When you want to blame others for the malfeasance being committed in Ferguson right now, any port in a storm will do.
    Whom do you blame, specifically?

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Whom do you blame, specifically?
    How about the perpetrators? Those who were looting and causing damage to property?

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How about the perpetrators? Those who were looting and causing damage to property?
    What about democrats, progressives and "black culture"?

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    my heart goes out to all those small business owners near the protest area. the anguish this must be putting them through. If the protesters don't get their "justice" the businesses are going be the first to get torched.
    You can't lump the protestors with the looters.

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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Gross ignorance.

    More of the same.
    Tell you what. Prove that race is what keeps someone down. In 2014. Prove that race is why someone wont succeed. I know you will stretch and reach, but your only consistent patterns will be poverty and not race.

    I will go deeper than that. Let's look at a psychological factor. Who is more likely to get a job? Someone who constantly blames their failures on their race, and by extension someone else? Or someone who blames themselves and adapts? You know the answer. That is why RACE is not what holds someone back.

    The greatest injustice being done to the black community is that people excuse the blaming of their skin color. And that just adds to the mentality that is plaguing people, especially kids, in our country: "I'm a victim. It isn't my fault I failed." Our country is wrapped up in this BS narcissistic "gimme a trophy for participation" garbage.
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    Re: Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Remember how white folks rioted when OJ was acquitted? Neither do I.
    Yeah, but imagine all the mayhem whites would have been engaged in had Darren Wilson been indicted. There would have been reports of white people rioting online and throwing bricks and firebombs at Amazon.com and Ebay. It would have been terrible because that's how those white people roll when they don't get what they want.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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