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    Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    IMO Ferguson was a good shooting but I am not so sure about this one. It will be interesting to see what facts come out here.



    "officers responded to a 911 call about someone waving what the caller described as a “probably fake” gun at a playground.

    Deputy Chief Ed Tomba said one officer fired twice after the boy pulled the fake weapon — which was lacking the orange safety indicator usually found on the muzzle — from his waistband but had not pointed it at police. The boy did not make any verbal threats, but grabbed the replica handgun after being told to raise his hands, Deputy Chief Tomba said.

    “That’s when the officer fired,” he said.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    As sad as this will sound, until we know the race of the Officer that fired (and that of the other Officer who responded) we cannot say this will be the next Ferguson. The race baiting that made Ferguson a political and media firestorm needed a White Officer to suggest racism. That will be true in this case as well, but you can safely bet Al Sharpton and Jesse Jacskon are getting the riot fuel ready just in case.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Deputy Chief Ed Tomba said one officer fired twice after the boy pulled the fake weapon — which was lacking the orange safety indicator usually found on the muzzle — from his waistband but had not pointed it at police. The boy did not make any verbal threats, but grabbed the replica handgun after being told to raise his hands, Deputy Chief Tomba said.
    I doubt this will be a "Ferguson" response.

    The two parts in bold pretty much make this a valid shooting. The kid did a stupid thing and unfortunately, it cost him his life. I would also like to find out why the kid had a fake gun without the orange safety indicator on in the first place. Also, why didn't the parents teach their kid to not do such an idiotic thing like reach for something after the cops tell you to put your hands up?

    So much fail on the kid and the parents its unreal. In the words of Walter the puppet (Jeff Dunham), "Dumbasses".

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I doubt this will be a "Ferguson" response.

    The two parts in bold pretty much make this a valid shooting. The kid did a stupid thing and unfortunately, it cost him his life. I would also like to find out why the kid had a fake gun without the orange safety indicator on in the first place. Also, why didn't the parents teach their kid to not do such an idiotic thing like reach for something after the cops tell you to put your hands up?

    So much fail on the kid and the parents its unreal. In the words of Walter the puppet (Jeff Dunham), "Dumbasses".
    All true but if it was a white cop Katy bar the door. In Ferguson it was a guy that just robbed a store and beat a cop as he tried to get his gun. A 12 year old kid in a playground with a play gun is going to cause a riot if a white cop shot him.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    All true but if it was a white cop Katy bar the door. In Ferguson it was a guy that just robbed a store and beat a cop as he tried to get his gun. A 12 year old kid in a playground with a play gun is going to cause a riot if a white cop shot him.
    The issue with Ferguson was there were two sides of the story and one of them was he put his hand up and then was shot. That is what fueled Ferguson. This isn't the same thing, yet.

    Now if someone comes forward and claims that the cops shot him and the kid didn't reach for the gun, then it could be an issue.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I doubt this will be a "Ferguson" response.

    The two parts in bold pretty much make this a valid shooting. The kid did a stupid thing and unfortunately, it cost him his life. I would also like to find out why the kid had a fake gun without the orange safety indicator on in the first place. Also, why didn't the parents teach their kid to not do such an idiotic thing like reach for something after the cops tell you to put your hands up?

    So much fail on the kid and the parents its unreal. In the words of Walter the puppet (Jeff Dunham), "Dumbasses".
    Another fail was that it seems the dispatcher was told multiples times it appeared to be a fake gun and that was not relayed to the police.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The issue with Ferguson was there were two sides of the story and one of them was he put his hand up and then was shot. That is what fueled Ferguson. This isn't the same thing, yet.

    Now if someone comes forward and claims that the cops shot him and the kid didn't reach for the gun, then it could be an issue.
    Maybe but I still think if a white cop shot this kid nothing else matters.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I doubt this will be a "Ferguson" response.

    The two parts in bold pretty much make this a valid shooting. The kid did a stupid thing and unfortunately, it cost him his life. I would also like to find out why the kid had a fake gun without the orange safety indicator on in the first place. Also, why didn't the parents teach their kid to not do such an idiotic thing like reach for something after the cops tell you to put your hands up?

    So much fail on the kid and the parents its unreal. In the words of Walter the puppet (Jeff Dunham), "Dumbasses".
    What's fail is today's societal fear and police responses to kids playing on playgrounds. Jesus we used to bring cap guns to the school playground all the time to play cops and robbers. No one called the police and no kids got shot.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    [QUOTE=americanwoman;1064015335]Another fail was that it seems the dispatcher was told multiples times it appeared to be a fake gun and that was not relayed to the police.[/QUOTE]

    I missed that part I guess

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Another fail was that it seems the dispatcher was told multiples times it appeared to be a fake gun and that was not relayed to the police.
    So they say. I don't believe it.

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