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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    They rolled up on a scene were it was reported there was a man with a gun pointing it at people. Rather than park a few hundred miles away and risk having a potentially dangerous man with a gun on the loose, they pulled up to the gazebo. While they were pulling up to the gazebo, the guy got up, walked towards then, and pulled up his shirt in what sure looks like an attempt to reach for the weapon that they were told he had. Quick set of circumstance...no doubt.

    You say 'processing' like he didnt know already that what he was doing was dangerous. His fried had told him what he was doing was stupid and could get him shot. His friend was right.
    You want to make sure the cops are dead tired when they finally reach the scene?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    kid went for the gun in his waistband, it's clear in the video. Remember, you have the rest of your life to win a gunfight.
    You ever notice how surveillance videos really suck. It's like they use cameras from the early 1900's. Where is the HD quality? The video was high contrast and fuzzy as hell.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You ever notice how surveillance videos really suck. It's like they use cameras from the early 1900's. Where is the HD quality? The video was high contrast and fuzzy as hell.

    cost to store HD video is prohibitive for most applications. plus retrofitting hd can be a bitch.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    cost to store HD video is prohibitive for most applications. plus retrofitting hd can be a bitch.
    Okay, even hi-fi or something with better fidelity. This is worse than when Armstrong stepped onto the Moon.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Dude, there are so many places you can get a 1911.


    I have 2 from Kimber a desert warrior, and an ultra eclipse II

    Wilson combat would build you whatever you wanted.
    You missed the original convo. I have quite a 1911 collection. But the gun shown was a replica of a "long slide" with a rail ahead of the trigger guard. Dude.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This is really a tragic story and I noticed the article didn't say how many rounds were fired at the boy.

    While there are legal ways to rationalize a justification for the officer shooting, still, I don't like it. A lot. In the past, basically every boy played with toy guns outside and none had red tips. Hell, a red tip doesn't even mean it's fake. Why were those kids of generations past routinely gunned down then too? Something's very wrong with that happening.
    In the past, we played cowboys and indians, cops and robbers, hell,we even had bayou wars. But this wasnt that. Our games were mutual audience participation events. The pictures very clearly show that the 12 year old kid was intentionally threatening total strangers.The cops werent called because kids were playing hitman together in the park.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Oh, cops are supposed to be able to identify every gun on the market and how long they were?



    You do know there are many makers of 1911 these days,
    Wasn't part of the conversation. I said "I" may hesitate to shoot for a bit if I saw a hand gun that I don't think exists in the real world. At least not without a ton of custom work.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Bottom line, that toy gun didn't have the orange tips. I think cops are trained to look for that, and if they don't see it, then they are automatically going to assume it's a real gun. I don't think it even comes into their mind "what gun is it".
    Where in the video did the officers have the chance to see the tip of the BB gun? So the tip color is completely irrelevant.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    I remember when I was a kid, playing cowboys and indians, and cops and robbers, I always had a toy gun in my hand. We kids always played our games at the public park. Cops frequently drove by, and never gave us any problems. Of course, we were all white too.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Wasn't part of the conversation. I said "I" may hesitate to shoot for a bit if I saw a hand gun that I don't think exists in the real world. At least not without a ton of custom work.
    You would not have been able to tell in those moments or even if you hesitated.


    Hesitate all your want. You have the rest of your life to win a gunfight. *shrug*

    report of a gun, kid goes for said gun, I shoot.

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