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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Who was being threatened when the cops arrived? Your mythologizing of the police is blinding you to reality.
    Why thats just horse****, son. WHat...you think police are going to respond to a call about a man threatening people with a gun nonchalantly? You are being embarrassingly ridiculous.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Why thats just horse****, son. WHat...you think police are going to respond to a call about a man threatening people with a gun nonchalantly? You are being embarrassingly ridiculous.
    Even the caller knew the gun was a toy. Why is a pedestrian have greater situational awareness than the police?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He probably feels like a good citizen. There was a guy walking around in a park pointing a gun at people and threatening him. He did what he was supposed to do. I hope he feels good about it.

    I am not for a second saying it isnt a tragic situation. Just sayin...it is a situation that happens all too often and could be avoided by people not doing stupid things.
    Yeah but he might also think "**** if I had realized the gun was fake that kid might still be alive".

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yeah but he might also think "**** if I had realized the gun was fake that kid might still be alive".

    People are not always rational.
    There is absolutely no way anyone looking at the gun from more than a few feet away could realize that. It is by design a replica MEANT to look real. Grandma even said his reason for buying it was to scare the people that were bullying him. I'll take her at her word that she didnt know HE was using it to bully others.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Even the caller knew the gun was a toy. Why is a pedestrian have greater situational awareness than the police?
    You obviously didnt listen to the audio. He assumed it was 'probably' not a real gun...he didnt KNOW it was a toy. If you say you can look at that gun and distinguish it from a real gun, you are a liar.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Even the caller knew the gun was a toy. Why is a pedestrian have greater situational awareness than the police?
    Actually the caller didn't know, but more importantly, that information was not passed to the officers that the caller thought it might be a toy gun.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually the caller didn't know, but more importantly, that information was not passed to the officers that the caller thought it might be a toy gun.
    It demonstrates that the caller could at least partially distinguish between the two and saw it fit to warn the police -- could it be the caller was recommending not jumping to conclusions? It also demonstrates that the threat, such as it was, was not clear and direct. It's clear the caller read the situation much more accurately than the police did. The dispatcher and officers all displayed incompetence, and the cops showed a clear bias toward confrontation and violence. How can you not hold them responsible?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You obviously didnt listen to the audio. He assumed it was 'probably' not a real gun...he didnt KNOW it was a toy. If you say you can look at that gun and distinguish it from a real gun, you are a liar.
    The caller could -- at least enough to mention it directly during his emergency call. Why didn't the dispatcher pass that along? Why couldn't the officers read the situation as well as a pedestrian could? Why did the officers not administer first aid after the shooting? Do you have answers to any of these questions?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    It demonstrates that the caller could at least partially distinguish between the two and saw it fit to warn the police -- could it be the caller was recommending not jumping to conclusions? It also demonstrates that the threat, such as it was, was not clear and direct. It's clear the caller read the situation much more accurately than the police did. The dispatcher and officers all displayed incompetence, and the cops showed a clear bias toward confrontation and violence. How can you not hold them responsible?
    How exactly does it "demonstrate" this?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    The caller could -- at least enough to mention it directly during his emergency call. Why didn't the dispatcher pass that along? Why couldn't the officers read the situation as well as a pedestrian could? Why did the officers not administer first aid after the shooting? Do you have answers to any of these questions?
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