Page 47 of 58 FirstFirst ... 37454647484957 ... LastLast
Results 461 to 470 of 576

Thread: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

  1. #461
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,183

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, what's the standard then? Police can shoot anyone carrying a gun around in an open carry state because they think there's a possibility they'll be in danger?
    Of course they are. Especially if a person has the temerity to live in a bad neighborhood.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

  2. #462
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,715

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Take away his age...something law enforcement did not know. Respond with the knowns...a male with a gun is threatening people at the park. This guy.

    2387FEDC00000578-2850234-Surveillance_footage_shows_12_year_old_Tamir_Rice_raising_and_po-64_141.jpg

    Then, when you roll up on the scene, that same individual gets up, walks TOWARDS you, and raises his shirt going to his 'gun'.

    2387FC2200000578-2850234-image-67_1417029653698.jpg23881F6C00000578-2853266-image-10_1417191389295.jpg

    Tragic. Teach kids better.

  3. #463
    Outer space potato man

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    51,847

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yeah. Cops aren't going to do ANYTHING else when they roll up on a scene where there is a man reported to have a gun and pointing at people other than shoot him when that person goes for what they have been told is a gun. Thats how that scenario is SUPPOSED to play out.

    The kid was intentionally living the thug life pointing his gun at people trying to scare them. Theres a good news bad news response here. Good news is...it worked. Bad news is......it worked.
    I like how you just decided what sort of person this kid is.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He was a douchebag...a thug...a criminal in the making. Had he grown up, that likely might have changed. Or it may have gotten worse. We wont know because what he did was stupid and ended up causing him to die. No one said he 'deserved' to die. What HAS been said that his actions caused a not unexpected reaction.

    Message...dont do stupid ****. IF you have kids, teach them that message. If you wont, have someone that actually gives a **** about them teach that message.
    Man, you really ****ing know this kid well, don't you? Did you live in this neighborhood and know him? You keep spitting out the word thug with such hatred. Based on what?
    Last edited by Deuce; 11-29-14 at 01:10 PM.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

  4. #464
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,715

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I like how you just decided what sort of person this kid is.



    Man, you really ****ing know this kid well, don't you? Did you live in this neighborhood and know him? You keep spitting out the word thug with such hatred. Based on what?
    Do you? Awesome. I'm usually a pretty good judge of character. Thanks for noticing!

  5. #465
    Outer space potato man

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    51,847

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Do you? Awesome. I'm usually a pretty good judge of character. Thanks for noticing!
    Do I? I'm not the one who has this kid's personality and entire life mapped out for him based on a thirty second video and a second-hand 911 call.

    Thug in training. I asked you to explain what you based that on. You didn't answer. Curious.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

  6. #466
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,715

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do I? I'm not the one who has this kid's personality and entire life mapped out for him based on a thirty second video and a second-hand 911 call.

    Thug in training. I asked you to explain what you based that on. You didn't answer. Curious.
    Kid running around pointing gun he knows looks real (he bought it BECAUSE it looked real), intentionally threatening people at the park WITH gun he knows looks real.

    Ta da.

    You are welcome. Feel free to go back to...well...whatever the **** it is you do.

  7. #467
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,715

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Hey Deuce...since you want to make this personal...lets look at the 'personal' side of things....

    You are freaking out about the "thug in training" comment(and I bet you are the kind of guy that has the racist idea that thug=black. Shame on you!!!)

    Now...
    Daddy-"accused of punching his live-in girlfriend in the head and arms during an incident in August, according to a police record."

    Mommy-"Samaria Rice, who pleaded guilty to drug trafficking last year and assault in 2001."

    Daddy again-"Dec. 8, 2001, Warner was the knife-wielding attacker of mommy at a home in the 3800 block of East 92nd Street."

    Daddy yet AGAIN- In 2010, Warner was arrested again for domestic violence. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to two years probation (4th incident-I blame the justcie system for not throwing him in prison the first time). Samaria Rice was the victim in that case, according to the court.

    Even though their relationship ended, Samaria Rice again found herself the victim of violence at the hands of men.

    She called Strongsville police twice in 2010 to report abuse from a boyfriend when she lived in that city.

    And apparently, mommy had ****ty taste in the men she brought into the family home. "er live-in boyfriend, Michael Wiley, of Cleveland, beat her for two days. Wiley was convicted of domestic violence and given a suspended 90-day jail sentence, county court records show." Again...WTG court system.

    Not great examples, certainly not great parenting, guardians knew he had a gun bought BECAUSE it looked real for 'self defense' and we have indisputable evidence he was running around with his gun threatening others.

    Thug. In. Training.

  8. #468
    Outer space potato man

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    51,847

    Re: The next Ferguson ?



    Yeah, keep telling yourself that you didn't call him a thug because he was black. Some white country kid with an abusive father, on the other hand, grows up to be a real American. Expected to get into guns at a young age. Long as he votes Republican, anyway.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

  9. #469
    Guru
    GhostlyJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    here
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    2,712

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Or due to the unknowns( is it real or is it Memorex? ), one or more LEO may have been dead.... hell, charge the parent(s) for not raising the kid to understand deference.

    Thom Paine
    The kid did nothing illegal or all that unusual. Only one crime takes place on that video, and it's not the kid who commits it. You act as thought any doubt at all is grounds for opening fire. I see kids with real guns all the time (sportsman's club, neighbor's house, hunting, walking down the road). By your standards, the police would be justified in shooting any of them at any time, because you just never know when they're gonna draw down on you.

  10. #470
    Guru
    GhostlyJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    here
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    2,712

    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    It's all too easy to say that in hindsight, when we know for a fact that it was an Airsoft pistol rather than a real gun.

    However and again... the officer had absolutely no way to know that. Airsoft guns are highly realistic replicas, as a photo of the evidence should make clear....



    The officers drove up to Tamir, who allegedly reached for the incredibly-realistic Airsoft pistol. If it had been a real gun, and the officer hesitated too long, or if they approached from 50 yards away, we could be mourning the officer (and/or an innocent bystander and/or Tamir) instead.

    This is not to say the officer has no responsibility or absolutely did the right thing, only that we can't judge it based on incomplete information. That's why we have incident reviews and due process.
    Hindsight is precisely what we use to determine criminal penalties. In the civilian world, if you cause someone's death -- even without intent -- you are criminally liable. The officers -- agents of the state -- should have at the very least given this citizen the chance to survive that encounter. The standard of justice I'd espouse is simple: If you open fire, you better be sure, or you face the consequences of your mistake.

Page 47 of 58 FirstFirst ... 37454647484957 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •