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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    So now cops don't have the right to protect their own lives as well as the lives of others?
    Whose life was in danger before the cops arrived?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    IMO Ferguson was a good shooting but I am not so sure about this one. It will be interesting to see what facts come out here.



    "officers responded to a 911 call about someone waving what the caller described as a “probably fake” gun at a playground.

    Deputy Chief Ed Tomba said one officer fired twice after the boy pulled the fake weapon — which was lacking the orange safety indicator usually found on the muzzle — from his waistband but had not pointed it at police. The boy did not make any verbal threats, but grabbed the replica handgun after being told to raise his hands, Deputy Chief Tomba said.

    “That’s when the officer fired,” he said.

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    was it a hunting ?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I doubt this will be a "Ferguson" response.

    The two parts in bold pretty much make this a valid shooting. The kid did a stupid thing and unfortunately, it cost him his life. I would also like to find out why the kid had a fake gun without the orange safety indicator on in the first place. Also, why didn't the parents teach their kid to not do such an idiotic thing like reach for something after the cops tell you to put your hands up?

    So much fail on the kid and the parents its unreal. In the words of Walter the puppet (Jeff Dunham), "Dumbasses".


    they were stupid enough to be killed....can't see any difference between these comments and a medieval inquisitor's judgement
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    was it a hunting ?






    they were stupid enough to be killed....can't see any difference between these comments and a medieval inquisitor's judgement
    A good shooting as in a valid shooting

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    A good shooting as in a valid shooting
    you speak as if it was hunting
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    I've watched the video a few times. In my opinion, both officers should face criminal charges. They brought all of the violence with them. They're fully responsible for that boy's death. They're judgment was tragically flawed. Manslaughter?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you speak as if it was hunting
    You hear as you want to hear

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    And maybe get shot themselves?
    Not much to work with there. Are you saying you agree with the way the police approached? You can't see the danger in the driver pulling up and forcing his partner and passenger to get out of the car only a few feet from a person who is reported to have a gun?

    How does approaching from sayyyyyy 40'-50' lead to the police being shot?

    The rules of the departments I've worked with is that you put yourself in danger before your partner....
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    So now cops don't have the right to protect their own lives as well as the lives of others?
    While I'm going to humor you, this response feels more like a troll post (meant to incite people to emotional response) rather than a well thought out response to the situation in the video....
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?



    Again, where was the time for the boy to process what's happening? They rolled up and shot him dead.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    And maybe get shot themselves?
    So, what's the standard then? Police can shoot anyone carrying a gun around in an open carry state because they think there's a possibility they'll be in danger?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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