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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's all stuff in the movies. You are taught that when you draw your weapon you better be prepared to fire and kill the person you are aiming at. Center mass, no bull**** leg, arm etc. hit. Center mass.
    I can read. The poster before you said the same. Is there anyway, at all, to incapacitate the child without killing the child? Any way? The child (or Mike Brown) is too busy trying to goad or play chicken with the cop to realize their life may be in danger. I'm trying to think for them. Trying to help save a life.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    I can read. The poster before you said the same. Is there anyway, at all, to incapacitate the child without killing the child? Any way? The child (or Mike Brown) is too busy trying to goad or play chicken with the cop to realize their life may be in danger. I'm trying to think for them. Trying to help save a life.
    If you are truly trying to "save a life", teach children that when the cops tell you to put your hands up, you don't go grab a gun (fake or not). THAT would have saved the child's life.

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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    What if they didn't point it at you? You only saw they were carrying it, would you wait until there was an actual threat, like it actually being pointed at you before shooting?
    Yes, I would wait. Having a gun is not a threat, pointing it at people is.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Not entirely different though. An airsoft projectile to the eye can cause damage.
    BB guns tend to not look like actual firearms. Airsoft guns usually look like actual firearms. Of course that only means anything to people that know what actual firearms look like.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes, I would wait. Having a gun is not a threat, pointing it at people is.
    So you would wait for the other person to take aim? Yea, sure.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    nm.......

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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes, I would wait. Having a gun is not a threat, pointing it at people is.
    When a cop tells you to put your hands up and your next action is grabbing a gun, fake or not, you pretty much are doing suicide by cop.

    And I also would be willing to be in your scenario, that you would be a dead cop if the person grabbed a real gun.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If you are truly trying to "save a life", teach children that when the cops tell you to put your hands up, you don't go grab a gun (fake or not). THAT would have saved the child's life.
    Not sure I'm an effective leader or role model on this subject like, for example, Al Sharpton, the lawyer for Brown's prosecution, or the New Black Panther Party. Wait.. that's the problem, isn't it?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    BB guns tend to not look like actual firearms. Airsoft guns usually look like actual firearms. Of course that only means anything to people that know what actual firearms look like.
    Um, yea. Many BB and pellet guns look every bit like a "real" firearm. So much so infact that states with strict gun laws classify BB and pellet guns as "firearms".
    I suggest you head on down to like Bass Pro and check them out. Lay some down beside some real guns, then tell me that if I were 10 to 20 feet away you would tell the difference and make a shoot don't shoot decision in a split second.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    I can read. The poster before you said the same. Is there anyway, at all, to incapacitate the child without killing the child? Any way? The child (or Mike Brown) is too busy trying to goad or play chicken with the cop to realize their life may be in danger. I'm trying to think for them. Trying to help save a life.
    Remember, all this happens in a split second. You don't have any time to consider, you follow your training.

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