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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Are you talking about the cops in this incident? He did precisely the right thing if everything reported thus far is true. Kid with a gun in a public area. Ordered to put his hands up instead goes for his gun. Two shots, double tap. That's a clean shoot. Regrettable, but not the officer's bung up. The parents and the kid, this is entirely on them.
    The cops did not need to approach with guns out in the first place... maybe one and not aimed. They did not do the right thing because a kid is dead. Tell the kid why they are there and ask the kid if he has a gun or a toy/BB first. This whole thing with cops shooting first or insiting on compliance or you WILL be harmed/tackled/arrested/shot hot head mentality has to stop.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

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    He was referring to bigoted statements about cops. I can post some more.
    One can't be a bigot against a profession.

    Again, you never made these distinctions before. Before it was just about cops in general. Why the need to try to spin away from what you've clearly stated in the past?
    I did make the distinction. You might have missed it or not noticed it. It might have been subtle and poorly communicated by me. I am not spinning anything. I have been and am being very clear and this questioning me as if I am being disingenuous is getting tedious. If you think that I am attempting to obfuscate or mislead then just say so and I will gladly place you on my list of those that don't deserve my respect.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If you want to see these things stop, you need to stop those kids from being stupid and their parents from allowing them to do stupid things. Funny how that's never something you acknowledge.
    Need to have cops stop approaching situations with a shoot first attitude. Talking can work too...
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The cops did not need to approach with guns out in the first place... maybe one and not aimed. They did not do the right thing because a kid is dead. Tell the kid why they are there and ask the kid if he has a gun or a toy/BB first. This whole thing with cops shooting first or insiting on compliance or you WILL be harmed/tackled/arrested/shot hot head mentality has to stop.
    Makes me extremely thankful you aren't a police officer. Had it been a high velocity gun and the kid was the sort to think he could win by taking some police out in a blaze of glory, every member of the public in the vicinity would have been in mortal danger.

    What happened is NOT hot headed mentality, but carefully considered policy and training.

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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The cops did not need to approach with guns out in the first place... maybe one and not aimed. They did not do the right thing because a kid is dead. Tell the kid why they are there and ask the kid if he has a gun or a toy/BB first. This whole thing with cops shooting first or insiting on compliance or you WILL be harmed/tackled/arrested/shot hot head mentality has to stop.
    Excuse me kind sir would you tell me if that object that resembles a firearm you're aiming at my head really is in fact a firearm?
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Makes me extremely thankful you aren't a police officer. Had it been a high velocity gun and the kid was the sort to think he could win by taking some police out in a blaze of glory, every member of the public in the vicinity would have been in mortal danger.

    What happened is NOT hot headed mentality, but carefully considered policy and training.
    I disagree... and it was not a real gun and an innocent kid was shot and killed. Why is this not being acknowledged and why are we hearing, "what if"? What if didn't happened. WHAT happened is that the cops shot a kid in a park with a BB gun and killed him.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Excuse me kind sir would you tell me if that object that resembles a firearm you're aiming at my head really is in fact a firearm?
    It was in the waist band of his pants concealed by his shirt... so much for the melodramatics though.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If you want to see these things stop, you need to stop those kids from being stupid and their parents from allowing them to do stupid things. Funny how that's never something you acknowledge.
    You're asking for the impossible. Kids will always be stupid and parents will always be neglectful.

    Mistakes similarly impossible to avoid but assuming that a kid is armed with a real gun when in the vast majority kids are playing with toys is similarly stupid and is just begging for accidents to happen.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It was in the waist band of his pants concealed by his shirt... so much for the melodramatics though.
    How long do you think it takes to draw pistol through no retention? I carry my pistol in a no retention holster on my waistband I'm certain I could draw faster than a police officer can through a duty holster. You're talking about actions which happen in fractions of a second. In the 1980s in Miami a Hispanic police officer name Louis Alvarez was brought up on charges for shooting a black teenager who had a real pistol in his waistband. The defense attorney Roy black brought a man named Massad Ayoob as an expert witness and massad did a demonstration for the jury where he showed that the pistol could be drawn and fired in less than half a second. Alvarez was acquitted
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I disagree... and it was not a real gun and an innocent kid was shot and killed. Why is this not being acknowledged and why are we hearing, "what if"? What if didn't happened. WHAT happened is that the cops shot a kid in a park with a BB gun and killed him.
    Yes, what if. Those policies and procedures the cops were following are put in place by folks who have had years of on the job experience. That the gun wasn't a real high velocity weapon is just a stroke of luck for the surrounding public. Acknowledge that.

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