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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I doubt this will be a "Ferguson" response.

    The two parts in bold pretty much make this a valid shooting. The kid did a stupid thing and unfortunately, it cost him his life. I would also like to find out why the kid had a fake gun without the orange safety indicator on in the first place. Also, why didn't the parents teach their kid to not do such an idiotic thing like reach for something after the cops tell you to put your hands up?

    So much fail on the kid and the parents its unreal. In the words of Walter the puppet (Jeff Dunham), "Dumbasses".
    How many 12 year olds don't do stupid things. A 300# 19 year old thug did something stupid and got killed for it. So how smart should a 12 year old be? I'll wait and see, but seems we have a pattern of quick on the draw no matter what going on.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How many 12 year olds don't do stupid things. A 300# 19 year old thug did something stupid and got killed for it. So how smart should a 12 year old be? I'll wait and see, but seems we have a pattern of quick on the draw no matter what going on.
    I don't think it is a quick draw when the kid grabs for a possible weapon. I'm reading conflicting articles that say it was a BB gun and one that says it was an airsoft gun. If it was a BB gun, that IS a weapon and the kid was stupid either way.

    Yes, kids do stupid things and there are instances where those stupid things can cause injury and in this case death. Darwin's way of weeding out the dumb folk I guess.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well the article I read said he had an airsoft gun. If that is correct he had a BB gun, than that isn't a toy and the cops were even more justified to shoot after he grabbed it.
    Either way, drawing a gun from your waistband exposes the tip far too late and is a very, very bad idea after a LEO tells you to raise your hands.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well the article I read said he had an airsoft gun. If that is correct he had a BB gun, than that isn't a toy and the cops were even more justified to shoot after he grabbed it.

    Airsoft isn't going to hurt anyone, unless maybe you hit them in the eye.


    Granted, I've seen airsoft guns hard to tell from the real deal.


    It's understandable... but it is a shame this happened.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes the kid was 12 meaning he should have known better than to have a replica of a gun without any safety markings on it and grab said replica after police are telling you to put your hands up.

    Those two things add up to a dumb kid getting shot.
    I blame the parents more than the kid.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Either way, drawing a gun from your waistband exposes the tip far too late and is a very, very bad idea after a LEO tells you to raise your hands.
    Yep, agree with you there. Unfortunately the stupidity of the 12 year old cost him his life.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How many 12 year olds don't do stupid things. A 300# 19 year old thug did something stupid and got killed for it. So how smart should a 12 year old be? I'll wait and see, but seems we have a pattern of quick on the draw no matter what going on.
    By the time I was 12, I had been through an NRA safety course and had my own real guns.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I blame the parents more than the kid.
    I blame both. A 12 year old doesn't know you shouldn't grab for something while the police tell you to put your hands up?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    And most of our toy guns did NOT have orange safety tips either.
    I don't remember any except the machine gun that had the moving red tip to simulate fire. That wasn't there for safety.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    By the time I was 12, I had been through an NRA safety course and had my own real guns.
    Yep, me too. We even had a rifle safety course in 5th grade.

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