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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why can't people just say things like this: Yes Hatuey, I made a statement which was false on various levels. I then showed evidence which corrected my false statement and you demonstrated how I was wrong even on a federal level.
    I remember you telling me awhile ago that that Arizona immigration bill was overturned since it didn't define "reasonable suspicion" which was completely false and I showed repeated examples of many statutes that don't define reasonable suspicion and you never once acknowledged you were wrong and I mean this is black and white objective truth. Instead you proclaimed victory and fled the thread. The moral of the story is that you shouldn't expect that which you're not willing to give:
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not one of the folks begrudging these guys.
    So folks attempting to bring innocent people killed by cops to the forefront in order to stop innocent deaths can't talk about it?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I hear you. Why can't some of these others? What makes more sense... that the kid was confronted by armed cops with guns pointed at him and he thought that he would make a play of his TOY gun or that they confronted him and he went to show them it was a TOY but didn't do so in the best manner and was shot dead for it by some scared little chicken **** cops (not all cops, just these bitches)?
    Tamir Rice didn't have a "TOY." He had an Airsoft pistol.

    If you've ever actually seen one (I've seen many btw) they are routinely designed, manufactured, marketed and sold as faithful reproductions of actual firearms. It's made of metal (as many are). When the orange safety tip is removed, there is absolutely no way to distinguish between an Airsoft pistol and a real pistol until you've got it in your hands.

    Another photo of the "toy" in question:



    We don't know what actually happened. But I really cannot see how anyone can expect a police officer to definitively know that an Airsoft pistol isn't a real gun.
    Last edited by Visbek; 11-24-14 at 08:15 PM.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about. I have cop friends. Orange County Sheriffs, Huntington Beach cops, cops in Flagstaff, my ex-fiancés dad was a cop, etc. They are great people. The minute one shoots a kid with a toy gun though I am going to put them under the ringer and demand a better response from them.

    If neither of you can differentiate then that is your problem, in all honesty.
    You have not made blanket claims about what all cops are like? Why are you soft pedaling something you were so boldly proud of before?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Tamir Rice didn't have a "TOY." He had an Airsoft pistol.

    If you've ever actually seen one (I've seen many btw) they are routinely designed, manufactured, marketed and sold as faithful reproductions of actual firearms. It's made of metal (as many are). When the orange safety tip is removed, there is absolutely no way to distinguish between an Airsoft pistol and a real pistol until you've got it in your hands.

    Another photo of the "toy" in question:



    We don't know what actually happened. But I really cannot see how anyone can expect a police officer to definitively know that an Airsoft piston isn't a real gun.
    Good post. Thanks for the clarification...
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You have not made blanket claims about what all cops are like? Why are you soft pedaling something you were so boldly proud of before?
    We are talking about cops shooting innocent people in this thread. When it comes to cops being out to get you on something that applies to almost all cops as that is there job.

    See how this works?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    So folks attempting to bring innocent people killed by cops to the forefront in order to stop innocent deaths can't talk about it?
    Remember how you declared positive experiences with police to be irrelevant to the subject of the police and, in fact, declared one really good posters observations/opinions basically meaningless?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    oohh ooohhh!! Squirt gun. What a fun game!


    Full Definition of GUN
    1a : a piece of ordnance usually with high muzzle velocity and comparatively flat trajectory
    b : a portable firearm (as a rifle or handgun)
    c : a device that throws a projectile


    Gun - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Type in "types of guns" and you get this link...

    types of guns - Bing Images
    And this BB gun meets the criteria for the definition you just posted. Or did you stop reading after definition b? Again, you tried to play with semantics and failed. Don't double down, just admit it and move on.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    We are talking about cops shooting innocent people in this thread. When it comes to cops being out to get you on something that applies to almost all cops as that is there job.

    See how this works?
    This is a marked difference in how you've presented yourself before when the subject was the police. Why the change? I'll totally pull up some examples since you're acting all wide eyed innocent and knowing not of what I speak.

    Btw, I notice some things don't quite change though with you claiming it's a cops job to "get you" whether folks have actually done something wrong or not.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    We are talking about cops shooting innocent people in this thread. When it comes to cops being out to get you on something that applies to almost all cops as that is there job.

    See how this works?
    No, we're not. We're talking about cops shooting a 12 year old who pulled what is designed to look exactly like a high velocity gun on them.

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