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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    WRONG. They did not because it WAS NOT A GUN.
    Actually it was a BB gun. Sort of kills your silly semantic tactic there.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Full Definition of BIGOT
    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance


    Bigot - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Not only are you using it out of context it doesn't even apply to me for the first part. I don't expect that you will be able to understand the nuances but will you please at least try?
    It absolutely applies to you. You have no hesitation to pronounce your prejudgment on cops based on your belief system about cops. Its OK...you have the right. Go with it.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Now that you've realized that your initial claim was wrong, how long will it take for you to admit it? I'll wait.



    To be honest? Given the environment of a 12 year old kid, in a playground, where kids play rough and make each other scream? I would have afforded him the benefit of the doubt and tried to get a few words out of the boy before making any decision.
    I hear you. Why can't some of these others? What makes more sense... that the kid was confronted by armed cops with guns pointed at him and he thought that he would make a play of his TOY gun or that they confronted him and he went to show them it was a TOY but didn't do so in the best manner and was shot dead for it by some scared little chicken **** cops (not all cops, just these bitches)?
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    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why do my years of law enforcement mean anything? There isn't anybody here outside of Goshin who has any law enforcement experience. Do you? Can you discuss the issue without being a law enforcement agent? What else can we use your ridiculous standard for? Can we exclude you from conversations on net neutrality because of your status as a blue collar worker and general ignorance of technology? Move along apdst, you've got nothing to argue here.
    No, I don't have law enforcement, but I'm not saying these guys are absolutely in the wrong. If you're so certain they were wrong, surely you have the training and experience to assure us that you could have done better. How many shoitouts have you been in?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    It absolutely applies to you. You have no hesitation to pronounce your prejudgment on cops based on your belief system about cops. Its OK...you have the right. Go with it.
    Cops that shoot innocent people before attempting to find a positive solution, yes...

    ...but I can clearly see that I am dealing with a very dim bulb so I will let you have the last word. Make it a good one!
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    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    WRONG. They did not because it WAS NOT A GUN.
    That's really the thing here isn't it? If it looks like a gun, it is a gun and the actions are justified because the kid is no longer innocent. If a person is honest enough to admit that there was never a gun, and the cops acted to one degree or another precociously, they shot an innocent child and the kid is a victim. That's really the problem here. Reluctance to admit that this was just a kid, in playground, with what in any other setting would have been considered a toy by reasonable adults. If they admit that, they then have to admit that their defense is just meant to make the police feel safe as opposed to police making citizens feel safe.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Now that you've realized that your initial claim was wrong, how long will it take for you to admit it? I'll wait.
    Okay, it's not against the law in this case to sell these guns without an orange tip in Ohio. I thought it was and I was wrong. Doesn't validate a single one of your arguments here that I was wrong about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    To be honest? Given the environment of a 12 year old kid, in a playground, where kids play rough and make each other scream? I would have afforded him the benefit of the doubt and tried to get a few words out of the boy before making any decision.
    You mean BEFORE he reached for that thing you won't admit looks just like a real gun, right? Not what I asked, and your attempt to weasel out of the question is transparent.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I don't have law enforcement,
    Then you shouldn't discuss the issue either. Move along, apdst.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Cops that shoot innocent people before attempting to find a positive solution, yes...

    ...but I can clearly see that I am dealing with a very dim bulb so I will let you have the last word. Make it a good one!
    I get it. You are uncomfortable in your bigot sweater. Good...lit should make you feel uncomfortable.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Cops that shoot innocent people before attempting to find a positive solution, yes...

    ...but I can clearly see that I am dealing with a very dim bulb so I will let you have the last word. Make it a good one!
    Who? VanceMack? I've always thought he was one of the sharpest guys here.
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