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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Absolutely. Especially when the 'toy' looks like this...

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    12 year olds can do some evil ****...

    https://www.google.com/#q=12+year+old+shoots+adult
    I'm coming lake to the discussion but that was really the toy? Wow, that sure looks real to me. What about those orange tips that toys are supposed to have?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'm coming lake to the discussion but that was really the toy? Wow, that sure looks real to me. What about those orange tips that toys are supposed to have?
    Kid removed/painted over it

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You know, it seems that the witness which saw this kid pointing his toy at people suggested that it was in fact a toy. Were the officers not privy to this information? Are 12 year olds not supposed to have toy guns? Are 12 year olds with toy guns dangerous?



    So then what you're saying is that because some 12 year olds shoot people, then cops are justified in believing this 12 year old was going to kill them. Yes?
    Thats not at all what he said. I have provided links to the quotes and audio. You should listen to it.

    I think ANY police officer responding to ANY situation involving ANY individual with a report of said individual in possession of and pointing the gun at others is justified in shooting said individual if said individual reaches for the weapon. Clear enough?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

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    Kid removed/painted over it
    If that is true, then it sounds like a sad mistake. A low grade Darwin award candidate, even.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'm coming lake to the discussion but that was really the toy? Wow, that sure looks real to me. What about those orange tips that toys are supposed to have?
    Makes you wonder why he would do that, huh? The 'toy' he was warned by his friend NOT to carry at the park, not to shoot at the park, and not to point at others at the park? Yeah...he made stupid decisions. It got him dead. Its probably not as funny to him anymore.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
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    CENTERVILLE, Ohio (WDTN) – We had viewers asking why there was no orange tip on the BB gun John Crawford picked up from one of the shelves.

    2 NEWS Investigates found BB and Pellet guns like the one Crawford was carrying are not required to. The reason? It’s not considered a toy.
    Why BB guns are not required to have orange tips | WDTN

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    He thought it MAY be a toy, but he called 911 because the kid was threatening others with it. The officers probably knew this. No, 12 year olds are not supposed to have realistic toy guns without the orange designator, by law. Yes, 12 year olds waving guns around can be dangerous, how were the officers to know this was a toy gun?
    So the kid deserved to be shot because he pointed a toy gun at people? As far as the orange tip thing, you better tell the law that:

    Legal issues in airsoft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Although airsoft guns in the United States are generally sold with a 6mm (0.24in.) or longer orange tip on the barrel in order to distinguish them from real firearms, this is not required by federal law.

    ..This language clearly exempts airsoft guns from these requirements, placing them in the same category as bb-guns, pellet, air, and paintball, none of which are conventionally sold or used with an orange tip, and many of which bear as much resemblance to real firearms as airsoft guns do.
    Yes, that and they had absolutely NO indication this was a toy gun.
    Except the witness who said it looked like a toy gun.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats not at all what he said. I have provided links to the quotes and audio. You should listen to it.

    I think ANY police officer responding to ANY situation involving ANY individual with a report of said individual in possession of and pointing the gun at others is justified in shooting said individual if said individual reaches for the weapon. Clear enough?
    So he didn't suggest it was a toy by saying 'It's probably fake'?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So the kid deserved to be shot because he pointed a toy gun at people? As far as the orange tip thing, you better tell the law that:

    Legal issues in airsoft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





    Except the witness who said it looked like a toy gun.
    The 911 caller did not say it "looked like" a toy gun. You obviously did not listen to his call or read what he actually said.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The 911 caller did not say it "looked like" a toy gun. You obviously did not listen to his call or read what he actually said.
    What else can one infer when a person suggest that something which looks like a gun is fake? Are we to infer that he think it's not fake and not a toy?
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