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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, innocent kids doing stupid things are what gets innocent kids killed. If that kid hadn't been in that park, with a real-looking gun, waving it around at people to the point that someone had to call 911 on him, he'd still be alive today, wouldn't he? It was the kid's actions that got him killed.
    He's a kid. Give me a break. Being stupid and 12 should not be a death sentence.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    He's a kid. Give me a break. Being stupid and 12 should not be a death sentence.
    Being 12 and stupid is the standard generally. I assume if the kid is 12, he's not thinking with the wisdom of a 40 year old.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    He's a kid. Give me a break. Being stupid and 12 should not be a death sentence.
    Maybe you ought to raise your expectations a bit. Kids raised properly are not stupid. It's a personal responsibility thing. Maybe you've heard of it?
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Being 12 and stupid is the standard generally. I assume if the kid is 12, he's not thinking with the wisdom of a 40 year old.
    Yet the vast majority of 12 year olds are not out waving fake guns at cops, are they?
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    He's a kid. Give me a break. Being stupid and 12 should not be a death sentence.
    Maybe not, but it so often is for humans, all throughout recorded history.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I can see that you are really trying to make a point here but you are failing... being black is not a profession that gives you legal power to use deadly force over others. Nice try though...



    It is spot on point...



    Exactly...



    Not anymore... cops will blast you and all these guys will pop out of the woodwork and call the kid a stupid idiot and that it was his and his parent's fault...



    I didn't say that there was more that the cop could do. I said it wasn't the kids fault... it was the cops fault.
    Its not about being black. Or about being a cop. Its about prejudice. Its about assigning characteristics to an entire race or profession based on the actions of a minority. Its bigoted. Its...what you are doing.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If he had reached for the toy, does that make the cops' actions justified?
    Absolutely. Especially when the 'toy' looks like this...

    cleveland-police-officer-shoots-12-year-old-boy-04600e4e02eb25eb.jpg

    12 year olds can do some evil ****...

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Most witnesses are very unreliable when it comes to accuracy...
    Unless they say what you fits your bias. Amiright?

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Absolutely. Especially when the 'toy' looks like this...
    You know, it seems that the witness which saw this kid pointing his toy at people suggested that it was in fact a toy. Were the officers not privy to this information? Are 12 year olds not supposed to have toy guns? Are 12 year olds with toy guns dangerous?

    So then what you're saying is that because some 12 year olds shoot people, then cops are justified in believing this 12 year old was going to kill them. Yes?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You know, it seems that the witness which saw this kid pointing his toy at people suggested that it was in fact a toy. Were the officers not privy to this information? Are 12 year olds not supposed to have toy guns? Are 12 year olds with toy guns dangerous?
    He thought it MAY be a toy, but he called 911 because the kid was threatening others with it. The officers probably knew this. No, 12 year olds are not supposed to have realistic toy guns without the orange designator, by law. Yes, 12 year olds waving guns around can be dangerous, how were the officers to know this was a toy gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So then what you're saying is that because some 12 year olds shoot people, then cops are justified in believing this 12 year old was going to kill them. Yes?
    Yes, that and they had absolutely NO indication this was a toy gun.

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