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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the thing isn't it? We're constantly told that there is so much violent crime out there (fact: violent crime has been decreasing for 50 years). We're told that black neighborhoods are burning daily (fact: crime in black neighborhoods has also been on the decline). We're told that is so much crime out there, that it justifies aggressive police tactics. What I think is actually happening is that the police are being groomed to treat American citizens as criminals. Stop and frisk gets used because there's a possibility that 1 out of 100 people will be carrying drugs or a weapon. Warrantless searches are conducted and the federal government uses police forces. It's pretty clear that Americans are now criminals in the eyes of the police unions. It's pretty clear that with each successive government (Republican or Democrat) the government-police-prison complex develops stronger links. It's a shame that so many conservatives are in favor of justifying police action no matter how aggressive it may seem. We must keep the people safe by killing a few innocents.
    Crime... down.

    No-Knock raids - innocent people killed by cop - cop numbers... up.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Personally, I am too smart to be a beat cop.
    That's seriously debatable.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Doesn't answer the question as to why on earth would the cop assume a 12 year old kid has a real gun? And honestly if the cop is that scared he needs to get a different job.
    Because the assumption is that *EVERY* gun is real until proven otherwise.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's seriously debatable.
    I am sure that you would come to that conclusion and that simply helps affirm my point. Thank you...
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because the assumption is that *EVERY* gun is real until proven otherwise.
    Even when the gun is not a gun?
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am sure that you would come to that conclusion and that simply helps affirm my point. Thank you...
    The point that you have no clue? Yeah, we all know that.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Even when the gun is not a gun?
    Anything that looks like a gun is a gun until proven otherwise.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The point that you have no clue? Yeah, we all know that.
    Why you are jumping in with personal attacks over a simple comment is beyond me... but you right ahead and beat off with your superiority complex.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because the assumption is that *EVERY* gun is real until proven otherwise.
    Broad blanket assumptions like that are excuses to not think and exercise judgment. In the hands of an adult I'd agree it's reasonable assumption. But a kid? Sorry. We should demand that LE actually think.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    In the hands of an adult I'd certainly agree. In the hands of a pre teen when in the vast majority of cases the kid will be holding a toy or at worst a BB gun? No. That's a bad assumption to make and it gets innocent kids killed.
    No, innocent kids doing stupid things are what gets innocent kids killed. If that kid hadn't been in that park, with a real-looking gun, waving it around at people to the point that someone had to call 911 on him, he'd still be alive today, wouldn't he? It was the kid's actions that got him killed.
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