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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    How can it be proven that the kid reached for the toy?
    The same way all things are 'proven'....by asking witnesses there.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Wrong, in this situation there is precious little the cop could do to distinguish a real weapon from a bb gun as the orange tip had been removed. Not saying the kid should deserved to die, but that bright orange tip is there for a reason.
    I don't believe BB/pellet guns have orange tips.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How is what you are doing any different than any other bigot that presumes blacks must be criminals because some are?
    I can see that you are really trying to make a point here but you are failing... being black is not a profession that gives you legal power to use deadly force over others. Nice try though...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Nice deflection.
    It is spot on point...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    How can it be proven that the kid reached for the toy?
    Exactly...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    He's 12!! Holy crap.... you can't even be 12 and act stupid.
    Not anymore... cops will blast you and all these guys will pop out of the woodwork and call the kid a stupid idiot and that it was his and his parent's fault...

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Wrong, in this situation there is precious little the cop could do to distinguish a real weapon from a bb gun as the orange tip had been removed. Not saying the kid should deserved to die, but that bright orange tip is there for a reason.
    I didn't say that there was more that the cop could do. I said it wasn't the kids fault... it was the cops fault.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't believe BB/pellet guns have orange tips.

    Mine didn't, but that was a while ago.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The same way all things are 'proven'....by asking witnesses there.
    If he had reached for the toy, does that make the cops' actions justified?
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Doesn't answer the question as to why on earth would the cop assume a 12 year old kid has a real gun? And honestly if the cop is that scared he needs to get a different job.
    Seriously... and what is with so many cops assuming the worst in EVERYBODY?
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The same way all things are 'proven'....by asking witnesses there.
    Most witnesses are very unreliable when it comes to accuracy...
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Mine didn't, but that was a while ago.
    It's only actual toys that get the orange tip. A bb gun is dangerous and not to be "played with".

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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Seriously... and what is with so many cops assuming the worst in EVERYBODY?
    That's the thing isn't it? We're constantly told that there is so much violent crime out there (fact: violent crime has been decreasing for 50 years). We're told that black neighborhoods are burning daily (fact: crime in black neighborhoods has also been on the decline). We're told that is so much crime out there, that it justifies aggressive police tactics. What I think is actually happening is that the police are being groomed to treat American citizens as criminals. Stop and frisk gets used because there's a possibility that 1 out of 100 people will be carrying drugs or a weapon. Warrantless searches are conducted and the federal government uses police forces. It's pretty clear that Americans are now criminals in the eyes of the police unions. It's pretty clear that with each successive government (Republican or Democrat) the government-police-prison complex develops stronger links. It's a shame that so many conservatives are in favor of justifying police action no matter how aggressive it may seem. We must keep the people safe by killing a few innocents.
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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the thing isn't it? We're constantly told that there is so much violent crime out there (fact: violent crime has been decreasing for 50 years). We're told that black neighborhoods are burning daily (fact: crime in black neighborhoods has also been on the decline). We're told that is so much crime out there, that it justifies aggressive police tactics. What I think is actually happening is that the police are being groomed to treat American citizens as criminals. Stop and frisk gets used because there's a possibility that 1 out of 100 people will be carrying drugs or a weapon. Warrantless searches are conducted and the federal government uses police forces. It's pretty clear that Americans are now criminals in the eyes of the police unions. It's pretty clear that with each successive government (Republican or Democrat) the government-police-prison complex develops stronger links. It's a shame that so many conservatives are in favor of justifying police action no matter how aggressive it may seem. We must keep the people safe by killing a few innocents.
    I agree.

    Also, you can't forget the money aspect. If we admit the crime is the lowest it's been in decades, do we need to keep the sheer number of police on hand? Do we need to keep arming them with more and more dangerous weapons?
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