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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You dont know dammit about what 'kids do', especially THIS PARTICULAR kid when confronted with something he knew he was doing that was wrong. There are far too many cases where people in general do stupid things when confronted. Who knows...maybe he was reaching for it to throw it away. But presuming and believing the worst about a law enfrcement officer in the face of a confrontation with a kid you KNOW has demonstrated some really stupid choices...well...thats just projecting your won personal bias into a belief. Again...all good...but it doesnt make much sense.
    IF he was reaching to throw it away then that makes the cop even more in the wrong... shooting without knowing intent of action.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If he's not mentally handicapped, I'm going to call BS on it.

    This isn't the first time cops straight up lied or seriously stretched the truth about a bad shooting.

    This MIGHT NOT BE one of those cases. Or it MIGHT BE. You are also projecting personal bias creating a 'belief' about something we know little about.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    IF he was reaching to throw it away then that makes the cop even more in the wrong... shooting without knowing intent of action.
    Horse****. When someone is reaching for a gun, it is illogical and unreasonable to assess intent before acting. When you are given a command to freeze and then raise your hands, THATS what you do.

    Is it easy to see how that MIGHT have been the kids response?

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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So, what went down all knowing?
    What I know is a kid is dead and shouldn't be.

    I have find it seriously difficult to believe the kid went for a toy gun when a cop pointing his gun at him.

    That's my opinion on the matter. It's same opinion that cops were too eager to fire on Amadou Diallo. I really doubt he was pulling out his wallet in an attempt to kill the police. Pulling a fake gun is just as incomprehensible as pulling out a wallet.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    All true but if it was a white cop Katy bar the door. In Ferguson it was a guy that just robbed a store and beat a cop as he tried to get his gun. A 12 year old kid in a playground with a play gun is going to cause a riot if a white cop shot him.
    So predictably, the whole thread as an excuse for CPC.


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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    What I know is a kid is dead and shouldn't be.

    I have find it seriously difficult to believe the kid went for a toy gun when a cop pointing his gun at him.

    That's my opinion on the matter. It's same opinion that cops were too eager to fire on Amadou Diallo. I really doubt he was pulling out his wallet in an attempt to kill the police. Pulling a fake gun is just as incomprehensible as pulling out a wallet.
    Begins and ends with the parents. Sad he is dead, but mom and dad should have instilled some common sense.

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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There are far too many cases where people in general do stupid things when confronted.
    Quite so, and America is getting dumber by the generation.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    so predictably, the whole thread as an excuse for cpc.
    cpc ?

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    Re: Cleveland boy with fake pistol killed by police

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    What I know is a kid is dead and shouldn't be.

    I have find it seriously difficult to believe the kid went for a toy gun when a cop pointing his gun at him.

    That's my opinion on the matter. It's same opinion that cops were too eager to fire on Amadou Diallo. I really doubt he was pulling out his wallet in an attempt to kill the police. Pulling a fake gun is just as incomprehensible as pulling out a wallet.
    If that is your basis for making a judgement then you are "right" no matter what anyone else says. It is quite easy to say, after the fact, that neither a toy gun nor a wallet posed a "real" threat. The advantage of hindsight was not availed to those that said "put pour hands up where I can see them" and then saw the person reach for something (at least partially) concealed in their clothing instead.
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    Re: The next Ferguson ?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    This MIGHT NOT BE one of those cases. Or it MIGHT BE. You are also projecting personal bias creating a 'belief' about something we know little about.
    What I'm using is logic. Unless that kid was challenged, he knew he didn't have anything but BBs in that toy. He knew he presented no danger to the cops. I also know the cops don't automatically shoot anyone that withdraws a gun and waves it around.

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