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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Did she say he raped her? Did she say he touched her genitals? Did she tell him to stop touching her, and did she say where he touched her?
    That's not what I asked. I asked you: Do you believe Cosby just drugs women, watches them sleep and then has a cab ready for when they wake up?
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    The FBI's definition of "rape" released in January 2012:

    “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

    The definition of rape released in 1927:

    “The carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will.”

    It was changed in 2012 to account for men who are raped (yes, men can be raped).

    How does asking her to take a shower and straighten her hair fall under the legal definition of "rape"? How about acting exercises where he moved his "hands up and down" her body (which she apparently didn't stop from happening and she isn't specific as to the parts of her body his hands moved up and down)?
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's not what I asked. I asked you: Do you believe Cosby just drugs women, watches them sleep and then has a cab ready for when they wake up?
    I don't speculate on what happened some place where I wasn't. You can do that all you want if it makes you happy.

    Do you have any proof of these "rapes" occurring?
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, in a lot of these cases, the statute of limitations has expired. However, if he keeps quiet long enough, there is one case he could potentially avoid having to go to court for as long as the claimant decides she doesn't want to go to court. There is also the issue that the allegations occurred in different places and each jurisdiction has different degrees of sexual assault as well as different statute of limitations as well as other crimes these allegations could fall under.

    With that said, the possibility of this going to trial is hindered by first and foremost time. If we are to believe some of the men on this forum, rape becomes less rapey after a certain time has passed. Then, there are the allegations that many of these women are doing it for.... the fame? I'm not sure what long term fame is supposed to come from coming out as a rape victim. Then, there is Cosby's power and celebrity capital. Who wants to prosecute America's dad? Who wants to be the investigator having to walk around NBC offices asking people about the probability of Fat Albert being a rapist? Who wants to be photographed escorting Dr. Huxtable to prison?

    It seems that if Bill Cosby plays his cards right and maintains his silence, he could potentially avoid this ever getting to a court for various reasons (among them, lack of evidence, missing evidence, sloppy police investigations). However, the damage is already there. He's being smacked around by all these allegations and he's not saying one word in his defence. That doesn't look good for a man who has an opinion on everything.


    You have statute of limitations on rape and sexual assault?

    For those who think time negates rape, they need another think. First, men get raped and it is the same there, the societal image that the victim must have somehow provoked it PREVENTS victims from coming forward sometimes forever. Some studies indicate that less than 20% of all sexual assaults ever get reported. Personally I find this situation an outrage. A grand jury should be convened to determine if these women are telling the truth, if not off THEY go, if so, off with his nuts
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't speculate on what happened some place where I wasn't.

    You can do that all you want if it makes you happy.

    Do you have any proof of these "rapes" occurring?
    Now, what you do and don't speculate is pretty obvious. You seem to be under the impression that pointing out that the word rape wasn't used is a sign of something. Now, with that said, I'll ask you one last time: Do you believe Cosby drugged women, then did nothing, and finally had a cab ready for them when they woke up?
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Now, what you do and don't speculate is pretty obvious. You seem to be under the impression that pointing out that the word rape wasn't used is a sign of something. Now, with that said, I'll ask you one last time: Do you believe Cosby drugged women, then did nothing, and finally had a cab ready for them when they woke up?
    Yes, not using the word "rape" means the women didn't use the word rape.

    Once again you want me to say what happened decades ago in a place where I wasn't? I don't play that game. You can speculate all you want and get excited about the media bandwagon and spend all day wondering what Bill Cosby did. I'm not a gossip monger. I'll wait for some evidence of what happened.
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you believe Cosby drugged women?...
    Don't know...Is there any toxicology screens to show this was the case, or is it he said, she said?

    then did nothing?
    Is there proof beyond someones 25 year old word? Rape kit?

    and finally had a cab ready for them when they woke up?
    Oh, he provided a ride home? What a crime....I say fry him.
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, not using the word "rape" means the women didn't use the word rape.
    So it is irrelevant to point it out? Glad you admit it.

    Once again you want me to say what happened decades ago in a place where I wasn't? I don't play that game. You can speculate all you want and get excited about the media bandwagon and spend all day wondering what Bill Cosby did. I'm not a gossip monger. I'll wait for some evidence of what happened.
    Nope, I'm asking you for your opinion on what you think happened between women being drugged and Bill Cosby having a cab ready for them when they woke up.
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Don't know...Is there any toxicology screens to show this was the case, or is it he said, she said?
    Toxicology screens from... 25+ years ago? Lol. What are you? 12?

    Is there proof beyond someones 25 year old word? Rape kit?

    Oh, he provided a ride home? What a crime....I say fry him.
    Rape kits from 20-25 years ago? Most jurisdictions didn't even have them in 1999 because they refused to pay for the costs.
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    Re: Ex-NBC Employee Claims He Helped Bill Cosby Pay Off Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So it is irrelevant to point it out? Glad you admit it.



    Nope, I'm asking you for your opinion on what you think happened between women being drugged and Bill Cosby having a cab ready for them when they woke up.
    My opinion on what happened in a room where I wasn't. Okay. Why don't you ask me my opinion on what Goshin is wearing right now or my opinion on how many times Angelina Jolie brushed her teeth yesterday or my opinion on the color of your computer. In fact, why don't we all just spend our days guessing about things we have no idea about. Fun!
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