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Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

j-mac said:
How so? I said that the Select committee was the final word, and that's what it is...Not moving anything...You're stretching.
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Uh... What makes the select committee the final word? I'll wait. :)
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Mark my words 20 years from now they will still be bringing up Benghazi anytime the Obama presidency is mentioned.
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The Libbos can't seem to shutup about Beirut.

No matter what conclusion this report comes to, it doesn't change all the other lies the regime told about Benghazi.
 
Hatuey said:
Uh... What makes the select committee the final word? I'll wait. :)
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On May 8, 2014, the House of Representatives adopted H. Res. 567, Providing for the Establishment of the Select Committee on the Events Surrounding the 2012 Terrorist Attack in Benghazi, Libya. (Roll Call Vote 209)

The Select Committee is authorized and directed to conduct a full and complete investigation and study and issue a final report of its findings to the House regarding--

All policies, decisions, and activities that contributed to the attacks on United States facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012, as well as those that affected the ability of the United States to prepare for the attacks;
All policies, decisions, and activities to respond to and repel the attacks on United States facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012, including efforts to rescue United States personnel;
Internal and public executive branch communications about the attacks on United States facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012;
Accountability for policies and decisions related to the security of facilities in Benghazi, Libya, and the response to the attacks, including individuals and entities responsible for those policies and decisions;
Executive branch authorities' efforts to identify and bring to justice the perpetrators of the attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012;
Executive branch activities and efforts to comply with Congressional inquiries into the attacks on United States facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012;
Recommendations for improving executive branch cooperation and compliance with congressional oversight and investigations;
Information related to lessons learned from the attacks and executive branch activities and efforts to protect United States facilities and personnel abroad; and
Any other relevant issues relating to the attacks, the response to the attacks, or the investigation by the House of Representatives into the attacks.

About the Select Committee | Select Committee on Benghazi
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The House on Thursday voted 232-186 to create a select committee to investigate the 2012 attack that killed four Americans at a diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya.

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...creating a special panel was necessary to determine whether the administration painted a false narrative about the Benghazi attack to protect President Obama’s foreign policy record as he ran for a second term.

House approves select committee to investigate Benghazi attack | TheHill
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Need I really educate you as to how the process in congress works? I hope not.
 
Paperview said:
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j-mac said:
Need I really educate you as to how the process in congress works? I hope not.
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No no j-mac, you're not doing that. You're stating why the committee was created. You're not educating anyone on why it is the 'final word' on the matter. Can you tell us why this committee is the final word on the issue ?​
 
j-mac said:
Reaching again....Your own OP went on to say:

"But the investigation also found the security at the diplomatic outpost was weak and it described a "flawed" process used to create talking points for House Intelligence Committee members and then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, whose public statements after the attack incensed critics who said the administration was avoiding calling the attack terrorism."

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"The Select Committee on Benghazi received the Intelligence committee's report on the Benghazi terrorist attack (in August), and has reviewed it along with other committee reports and materials as the investigation proceeds," spokesman Jamal D. Ware said in a statement. "It will aid the Select Committee's comprehensive investigation to determine the full facts of what happened in Benghazi, Libya before, during and after the attack and contribute toward our final, definitive accounting of the attack on behalf of Congress."

So, excuse me if I'd like to wait until the Select committee finishes their work...
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And undoubtedly after the Select Committee finishes their work, you'll want to wait for another committee - until eventually you get a result that says not only was Hilary Clinton criminally negligent, but she actually planned the attack. You guys are nothing if not predictable.:lamo
 
Somerville said:
Oh dear, what will the True Believers say now



I wonder why the report was released late on a Friday

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/11/21/benghazi.report.pdf
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Let's see. The Republican House authorized and co-produced a bipartisan report on the Benghazi attack and the deaths of an Ambassador and three brave former Marines and found that the CIA was not negligent in the lead up to and the handling of the situation as it happened. Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.

I didn't see any reference to how the State Department or the White House handled the matter - both as it relates to security leading up to the attacks and the dissemination of false story lines following the events. Perhaps it's in the report or perhaps that was outside of the jurisdiction of the House Intelligence Committee.

Bottom line, those who complain that the House Republicans are driven solely by politics and attempts to embarrass the President and his administration should be heartened by the fact that at least some members of Congress are serious about their roles in oversight.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Let's see. The Republican House authorized and co-produced a bipartisan report on the Benghazi attack and the deaths of an Ambassador and three brave former Marines and found that the CIA was not negligent in the lead up to and the handling of the situation as it happened. Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.

I didn't see any reference to how the State Department or the White House handled the matter - both as it relates to security leading up to the attacks and the dissemination of false story lines following the events. Perhaps it's in the report or perhaps that was outside of the jurisdiction of the House Intelligence Committee.

Bottom line, those who complain that the House Republicans are driven solely by politics and attempts to embarrass the President and his administration should be heartened by the fact that at least some members of Congress are serious about their roles in oversight.
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ICYMI

Direct Quotes from the Select Committee's Report:



  • The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of available air support....
  • Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi, but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11 attacks.
  • Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals, including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....
  • Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....
  • Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the talking points HPSCI asked for—and which were used for Ambassador Rice's public appearances—was flawed....
  • Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence that the IC shipped arms to Syria.


Republicans Finally Admit There Is No Benghazi Scandal
 
Paperview said:
ICYMI

Direct Quotes from the Select Committee's Report:



  • The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of available air support....
  • Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi, but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11 attacks.
  • Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals, including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....
  • Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....
  • Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the talking points HPSCI asked for—and which were used for Ambassador Rice's public appearances—was flawed....
  • Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence that the IC shipped arms to Syria.


Republicans Finally Admit There Is No Benghazi Scandal
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And the relevance of your expanded comments to my post is?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.
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Was it the left or the right that was using this tragedy as political bludgeon for the past two years?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Let's see. The Republican House authorized and co-produced a bipartisan report on the Benghazi attack and the deaths of an Ambassador and three brave former Marines and found that the CIA was not negligent in the lead up to and the handling of the situation as it happened. Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.

I didn't see any reference to how the State Department or the White House handled the matter - both as it relates to security leading up to the attacks and the dissemination of false story lines following the events. Perhaps it's in the report or perhaps that was outside of the jurisdiction of the House Intelligence Committee.

Bottom line, those who complain that the House Republicans are driven solely by politics and attempts to embarrass the President and his administration should be heartened by the fact that at least some members of Congress are serious about their roles in oversight.
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Leading, again, to wonder what these protests of "nothing there" are all about. Those howls began before the first witness was called or the parameters were announced.

In my experience, when there is push back to an investigation, like our own Jian Gomeshi or Bill Cosby, usually indicates some fear about what's there.

In the meantime, amid the chaos of completely partisan argument, the left has conveniently ignored the fact that their Commander in Chief has allowed the terrorists responsible to get away with killing Americans serving their country.

You can't really be astonished at the growth of terrorism when they are emboldened by nonsensical ass covering and partisan bickering preventing the assassins capture
 
Amadeus said:
Was it the left or the right that was using this tragedy as political bludgeon for the past two years?
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It was only a left/right issue because many on the left wanted to dismiss the deaths of four Americans in a diplomatic facility as no big deal.

If you think this report absolves somehow any responsibility on the part of anyone in the government or the administration, you're not interested in government oversight and only interested in a political soundbite.
 
Hatuey said:
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APACHERAT said:
That's the best you can do ?
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How's that for irony? In that movie, the theories were completely true.

There would have never been any theories if the administration had been forthright in the first place.
 
apdst said:
The Libbos can't seem to shutup about Beirut.

No matter what conclusion this report comes to, it doesn't change all the other lies the regime told about Benghazi.
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Beirut?

He was the greatest baseball player of all time.

(I don't hear people talking about Beirut, you had to dig deep to make that one up)
 
countryboy said:
How's that for irony? In that movie, the theories were completely true.

There would have never been any theories if the administration had been forthright in the first place.
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Seriously, you demean yourself responding to a picture post. If they can't use words, they belong in kintergarden.

And, referencing a 17 year old fictional movie is rather lame in the first place. You are better than that
 
countryboy said:
How's that for irony? In that movie, the theories were completely true.

There would have never been any theories if the administration had been forthright in the first place.
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It's a movie based on conspiracy theories, which are true in a fictional word and not in the real world. That's the point.
 
CanadaJohn said:
It was only a left/right issue because many on the left wanted to dismiss the deaths of four Americans in a diplomatic facility as no big deal.
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Wrongest Post of the Year, 2014 nomination.
 
So, we have wasted taxpayer's money a seventh time and came up with the same conclusion every time.

Wait....lets have another investigation! Because:


BENGHAZI!!!!
 
Fearandloathing said:
Seriously, you demean yourself responding to a picture post. If they can't use words, they belong in kintergarden.

And, referencing a 17 year old fictional movie is rather lame in the first place. You are better than that
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Oh get off your high horse.

We're on a message board on the internet talking Benghazi for the ten thousandth time -- not working on some snooty college thesis project.

Sheesh.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Seriously, you demean yourself responding to a picture post. If they can't use words, they belong in kintergarden.

And, referencing a 17 year old fictional movie is rather lame in the first place. You are better than that
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What can I say, I actually like that movie. I'm a fan of Mel Gibson.
 
Hatuey said:
It's a movie based on conspiracy theories, which are true in a fictional word and not in the real world. That's the point.
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That's a lot of hoops to jump through in a lame attempt to make a point. Lol.
 
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