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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Oh dear, what will the True Believers say now



    I wonder why the report was released late on a Friday

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/im...azi.report.pdf
    Let's see. The Republican House authorized and co-produced a bipartisan report on the Benghazi attack and the deaths of an Ambassador and three brave former Marines and found that the CIA was not negligent in the lead up to and the handling of the situation as it happened. Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.

    I didn't see any reference to how the State Department or the White House handled the matter - both as it relates to security leading up to the attacks and the dissemination of false story lines following the events. Perhaps it's in the report or perhaps that was outside of the jurisdiction of the House Intelligence Committee.

    Bottom line, those who complain that the House Republicans are driven solely by politics and attempts to embarrass the President and his administration should be heartened by the fact that at least some members of Congress are serious about their roles in oversight.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Let's see. The Republican House authorized and co-produced a bipartisan report on the Benghazi attack and the deaths of an Ambassador and three brave former Marines and found that the CIA was not negligent in the lead up to and the handling of the situation as it happened. Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.

    I didn't see any reference to how the State Department or the White House handled the matter - both as it relates to security leading up to the attacks and the dissemination of false story lines following the events. Perhaps it's in the report or perhaps that was outside of the jurisdiction of the House Intelligence Committee.

    Bottom line, those who complain that the House Republicans are driven solely by politics and attempts to embarrass the President and his administration should be heartened by the fact that at least some members of Congress are serious about their roles in oversight.
    ICYMI

    Direct Quotes from the Select Committee's Report:



    • The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of available air support....
    • Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi, but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11 attacks.
    • Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals, including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....
    • Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....
    • Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the talking points HPSCI asked foróand which were used for Ambassador Rice's public appearancesówas flawed....
    • Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



    Republicans Finally Admit There Is No Benghazi Scandal

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    ICYMI

    Direct Quotes from the Select Committee's Report:



    • The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of available air support....
    • Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi, but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11 attacks.
    • Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals, including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....
    • Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....
    • Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the talking points HPSCI asked for—and which were used for Ambassador Rice's public appearances—was flawed....
    • Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



    Republicans Finally Admit There Is No Benghazi Scandal
    And the relevance of your expanded comments to my post is?
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.
    Was it the left or the right that was using this tragedy as political bludgeon for the past two years?

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Let's see. The Republican House authorized and co-produced a bipartisan report on the Benghazi attack and the deaths of an Ambassador and three brave former Marines and found that the CIA was not negligent in the lead up to and the handling of the situation as it happened. Americans should be proud of that non-political, bipartisan cooperation into a serious issue, and yet this thread is full of politics from those on the left without an apparent care for those who lost their lives.

    I didn't see any reference to how the State Department or the White House handled the matter - both as it relates to security leading up to the attacks and the dissemination of false story lines following the events. Perhaps it's in the report or perhaps that was outside of the jurisdiction of the House Intelligence Committee.

    Bottom line, those who complain that the House Republicans are driven solely by politics and attempts to embarrass the President and his administration should be heartened by the fact that at least some members of Congress are serious about their roles in oversight.
    Leading, again, to wonder what these protests of "nothing there" are all about. Those howls began before the first witness was called or the parameters were announced.

    In my experience, when there is push back to an investigation, like our own Jian Gomeshi or Bill Cosby, usually indicates some fear about what's there.

    In the meantime, amid the chaos of completely partisan argument, the left has conveniently ignored the fact that their Commander in Chief has allowed the terrorists responsible to get away with killing Americans serving their country.

    You can't really be astonished at the growth of terrorism when they are emboldened by nonsensical ass covering and partisan bickering preventing the assassins capture
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Was it the left or the right that was using this tragedy as political bludgeon for the past two years?
    It was only a left/right issue because many on the left wanted to dismiss the deaths of four Americans in a diplomatic facility as no big deal.

    If you think this report absolves somehow any responsibility on the part of anyone in the government or the administration, you're not interested in government oversight and only interested in a political soundbite.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's the best you can do ?
    How's that for irony? In that movie, the theories were completely true.

    There would have never been any theories if the administration had been forthright in the first place.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos can't seem to shutup about Beirut.

    No matter what conclusion this report comes to, it doesn't change all the other lies the regime told about Benghazi.
    Beirut?

    He was the greatest baseball player of all time.

    (I don't hear people talking about Beirut, you had to dig deep to make that one up)
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    How's that for irony? In that movie, the theories were completely true.

    There would have never been any theories if the administration had been forthright in the first place.
    Seriously, you demean yourself responding to a picture post. If they can't use words, they belong in kintergarden.

    And, referencing a 17 year old fictional movie is rather lame in the first place. You are better than that
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    How's that for irony? In that movie, the theories were completely true.

    There would have never been any theories if the administration had been forthright in the first place.
    It's a movie based on conspiracy theories, which are true in a fictional word and not in the real world. That's the point.
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