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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, well, then why post something that has Panetta equivocating on whether or not the attack was due to a video? Surely you must have thought that backed up your opinion, otherwise there is no reason to post it like you did...
    You haven't been following the conversation. Fenton brought up Panetta, I quote Panetta and in effect nullified Fenton's point.

    Being a jerk doesn't hide what you did any better.
    You asking me what I believe now has nothing to do with what was believed during the Benghazi attack. Which indicates that you're unaware of how time actually works. I informed you. That's not being a jerk.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which country was attacked after 9/11 because of 9/11? And why did up to 70% of Americans believe that Saddam was linked, if not directly responsible, for 9/11?

    And you talk about Democrats being Grubered...
    Maybe a second time might help.

    Who blamed Iraq for 9/11???

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Oh dear, what will the True Believers say now



    I wonder why the report was released late on a Friday

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/im...azi.report.pdf
    Im convinced. According to the govt, the govt did nothing wrong. Lets move on.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Maybe a second time might help.

    Who blamed Iraq for 9/11???
    Bush put forth the notion that Iraq and 9/11 were linked, as I previously stated.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_...nk_allegations

    Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations were made by U.S. Government officials who claimed that a highly secretive relationship existed between former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the radical Islamist militant organization Al-Qaeda from 1992 to 2003, specifically through a series of meetings reportedly involving the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS).[1] In the lead up to the Iraq War, U.S. President George W. Bush alleged that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and militant group al-Qaeda might conspire to launch terrorist attacks on the United States,[2] basing the administration's rationale for war, in part, on this allegation and others. The consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission and by declassified Defense Department reports[3] as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.[4] Critics of the Bush Administration have said Bush was intentionally building a case for war with Iraq without regard to factual evidence. On April 29, 2007, former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet said on 60 Minutes, "We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period."
    September 11th aftermath

    The Bush Administration sought to link the Iraqi dictator to Islamist radicals early on in the aftermath of the September 11th attacks. President Bush allegedly made the case to Tony Blair as early as September 14, 2001, although Blair urged him not to pursue the claim.[12]

    In addition, Bush received on September 21, 2001, a classified President's Daily Brief (PDB), indicating the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the September 11th attacks and that "there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda."[13]
    Cheney's claims

    Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there was "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]
    Bush Administration reconsiders its position

    On March 21, 2006, Bush sought to distance himself from the allegation of any link. He said: "First, just if I might correct a misperception, I don’t think we ever said — at least I know I didn’t say that there was a direct connection between September the 11th and Saddam Hussein."[33] Bush reaffirmed the White House position in even stronger terms in a press conference on 21 August 2006. When asked what the connection was between Iraq and the September 11th attacks, Bush replied, "Nothing.... Nobody has ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq."[34]

    Opponents of his Iraq policy charged that his statement was inconsistent with his letter to Congress of March 21, 2003 [35] and a minority (Democrat) staff report by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Government Reform claimed that "in 125 separate appearances, they [Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice] made ... 61 misleading statements about Iraq's relationship with al-Qaeda."[36]
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You haven't been following the conversation. Fenton brought up Panetta, I quote Panetta and in effect nullified Fenton's point.
    I followed it just fine...And now you are dancing....

    You asking me what I believe now has nothing to do with what was believed during the Benghazi attack. Which indicates that you're unaware of how time actually works. I informed you. That's not being a jerk.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Absolutely. There's no leading Presidential candidate on the right who blurted in exasperation "what difference does it make".
    No, they were just doing it on the very same day:

    At 10:09 p.m. ET, the Romney campaign sends out a statement to reporters. It's "embargoed until midnight tonight," i.e., until after the 9/11 anniversary. Romney:

    I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It's disgraceful that the Obama Administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

    At 10:24, the campaign lifts the embargo and reporters start mentioning the statement.

    - At 12:01 a.m. ET, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus tweets: Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic.
    But go on telling everyone how it was anyone other than Republicans who politicized what happened in Benghazi.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Bush put forth the notion that Iraq and 9/11 were linked, as I previously stated.
    Linked? No, I asked you who blamed Iraq for 9/11.

    If no one blamed Iraq for 9/11 just say so.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, they were just doing it on the very same day:But go on telling everyone how it was anyone other than Republicans who politicized what happened in Benghazi.
    It was a disgrace. That's just pointing out the obvious.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Maybe a second time might help.

    Who blamed Iraq for 9/11???

    Nah Grant. Keep them focused on Benghazi and Libya, also that which correlates with the issue. All that other BS is nothing more than a deflection. So far he isn't doing so well with what I brought up.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was a disgrace. That's just pointing out the obvious.
    It was also a lie, as Obama did nothing of the sort.

    But thank you for admitting Republicans were the first to politicize it.

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