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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I've said this before, and I'll say it again... I don't expect our government to be perfect, especially when it comes to incidents like this that take place over seas in a hostile part of the world. I've always believed that if any mistakes were made by the Administration or State Department, that we just need to learn from them so we handle things better next time. The way I see it, as long it wasn't a case of blatant incompetence or complete disregard for American lives, there is no need to look for heads to put on a chopping block.

    My biggest issue with the entire Benghazi incident right from the beginning, was the fact that the Obama Administration lied to the American people, and did so not to protect national security, not because details were classified, and not as a means to prevent more violence from occuring... They lied purely for personal political gain because the truth might have negatively effected the presidents reelection bid. To make matters worse, the Administration blamed the attack and the deaths of those 4 Americans, on an innocent man who's only crime was exercising his freedom of expression by making and publishing a video on YouTube, that many Muslims found offensive... The Administration then had the man arrested and turned his life completely upside down, all because they were afraid that if they told the truth about what really happened and why, it might cost them a few votes.

    They made up phony excuses and pinned the blame on an innocent person all for political gain... In my opinion, any person or party possessing that kind of selfishness and lack of character, present more of a danger to our nation than terrorism ever could and do not deserve to hold elected office PERIOD...

    But that's what happens when the media abandons investigative journalism to become political cheerleaders, and half the American public acts like their voting for prom king on election day, rather than our nations leader.
    So basically you are going to ignore the content of the report and repeat the same failed, inaccurate talking point that Hannity fed you.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I've said this before, and I'll say it again... I don't expect our government to be perfect, especially when it comes to incidents like this that take place over seas in a hostile part of the world. I've always believed that if any mistakes were made by the Administration or State Department, that we just need to learn from them so we handle things better next time. The way I see it, as long it wasn't a case of blatant incompetence or complete disregard for American lives, there is no need to look for heads to put on a chopping block.

    My biggest issue with the entire Benghazi incident right from the beginning, was the fact that the Obama Administration lied to the American people, and did so not to protect national security, not because details were classified, and not as a means to prevent more violence from occuring... They lied purely for personal political gain because the truth might have negatively effected the presidents reelection bid. To make matters worse, the Administration blamed the attack and the deaths of those 4 Americans, on an innocent man who's only crime was exercising his freedom of expression by making and publishing a video on YouTube, that many Muslims found offensive... The Administration then had the man arrested and turned his life completely upside down, all because they were afraid that if they told the truth about what really happened and why, it might cost them a few votes.

    They made up phony excuses and pinned the blame on an innocent person all for political gain... In my opinion, any person or party possessing that kind of selfishness and lack of character, present more of a danger to our nation than terrorism ever could and do not deserve to hold elected office PERIOD...

    But that's what happens when the media abandons investigative journalism to become political cheerleaders, and half the American public acts like their voting for prom king on election day, rather than our nations leader.
    tl/dr version: The results of the investigation did not yield what Grim17 was expecting. Now, he's pretending he wasn't hoping for this report to say the exact opposite so he could crucify Obama. Remember folks, this is the same guy who posted this:

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    The more we learn about the attacks earlier this week, the more nieve and incompetant the Obama Administration is looking.

    BBC News - US consulate in Benghazi 'did not have enough security'
    So remember folks, the same guy who proclaimed there was a cover up is now saying this was a learning experience for us all. Kind of like an episode of Full House. He's claiming there's no need to looking for heads for chopping block when that's exactly what he was doing by using any bit of evidence he had to say that there had been a cover-up. The best part is that he's still trying to claim the WH lied. The fact that that idiot Issa proved the exact opposite when he revealed that as the attacks were going on, the WH was asking YouTube to take down the video just makes this all juicier. Stay honest, Grim17.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So basically you are going to ignore the content of the report and repeat the same failed, inaccurate talking point that Hannity fed you.
    You beat me to the punch. Can you imagine? The same guy who made various threads about the great Benghazi cover up is now saying that he was just looking for answers. Dishonest much?
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So basically you are going to ignore the content of the report and repeat the same failed, inaccurate talking point that Hannity fed you.
    Haven't watched or heard Hannity in months... As for the report, It was neither a surprise, nor an expectation.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The best part is that he's still trying to claim the WH lied.
    They did lie... For nearly 2 weeks the Administration led the American people to believe that the attack was not done by organized terrorists, but was the result of spontaneous outrage over a YouTube video. It was a total crock of "you can keep your doctor" BS.

    BTW, I appreciate you backing up my claim by showing that the lie about a the video was the thing that bothered me the most.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Well I'm just going to do a copy and paste from another thread.

    >" Did you actually followed the links and actually read the report ? < http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/...i%20Report.pdf > It exonerates the CIA, not the Obama administration.

    Susan Rice and Obama still blamed it on a You Tube video while most informed Americans knew that Obama was politicalizing Benghazi and was derelict in his duties as Commander in Chief.The Obama administration didn't respond that night while Americans were fighting for their lives and requesting for help.

    No AC-130 (Spectra) available. Why ? Obama is the CnC.

    No Navy CSG or ARG in the Mediterranean , why ? Presidents Truman, Esienhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 always had a naval presence in the Mediterranean , why not Obama ? Could it be that Obama had already stripped our military of being able to respond ?

    No stand down order was issued because no order was issued to go in.

    Still the Obama administration lied to the American people and blamed it on a You Tube video.


    Obama refused to call it a terrorist attack.

    Finding: >" A mixed group, including members of al-Qa’ida in the lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AGIM), al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI), the Muhammad Jamal Network (MJN), Ansar al-Sharia (AAS), and Abu Abaydah Ibn Jarah Battalion (UJB) participated in the attacks, along with Qadafi loyalist"<

    Finding: >"The CIA received all military support that was available. Neither the CIA nor DOD denied requests for air support. One CIA security officer requested a Spectre gunship that he believed was available, but his commanding officer did not relay the request because he correctly knew the gunship was not availabl. "<

    Why wasn't an AC-130 available ? Who in the **** is the CnC ?

    Finding: >" Ambassador Rice’s September 16 public statements about the existence of a protest, as well as some of the underlying intelligence reports, proved to be inaccurate."<

    No **** Sherlock, when hasn't the Obama administration not lied ?..."<

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    They did lie... For nearly 2 weeks the Administration led the American people to believe that the attack was not done by organized terrorists, but was the result of spontaneous outrage over a YouTube video. It was a total crock of "you can keep your doctor" BS.

    BTW, I appreciate you backing up my claim by showing that the lie about a the video was the thing that bothered me the most.
    Grim17, Issa already proved that the YouTube video thing wasn't a lie and the administration thought this had been caused by a video. This was done months ago and you're still holding on to it. You just lied about how you were looking for a lesson to be learned. You wanted there to be culpability of something. You wanted there to be a coverup. There wasn't and you made a tl/dr post to tell everyone how you're eating crow, but it's not as bad as people think. You've lost credibility, dude.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Well I'm just going to do a copy and paste from another thread.

    >" Did you actually followed the links and actually read the report ? < http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/...i%20Report.pdf > It exonerates the CIA, not the Obama administration.

    Susan Rice and Obama still blamed it on a You Tube video while most informed Americans knew that Obama was politicalizing Benghazi and was derelict in his duties as Commander in Chief.The Obama administration didn't respond that night while Americans were fighting for their lives and requesting for help.

    No AC-130 (Spectra) available. Why ? Obama is the CnC.

    No Navy CSG or ARG in the Mediterranean , why ? Presidents Truman, Esienhower, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 always had a naval presence in the Mediterranean , why not Obama ? Could it be that Obama had already stripped our military of being able to respond ?

    No stand down order was issued because no order was issued to go in.

    Still the Obama administration lied to the American people and blamed it on a You Tube video.


    Obama refused to call it a terrorist attack.

    Finding: >" A mixed group, including members of al-Qa’ida in the lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AGIM), al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI), the Muhammad Jamal Network (MJN), Ansar al-Sharia (AAS), and Abu Abaydah Ibn Jarah Battalion (UJB) participated in the attacks, along with Qadafi loyalist"<

    Finding: >"The CIA received all military support that was available. Neither the CIA nor DOD denied requests for air support. One CIA security officer requested a Spectre gunship that he believed was available, but his commanding officer did not relay the request because he correctly knew the gunship was not availabl. "<

    Why wasn't an AC-130 available ? Who in the **** is the CnC ?

    Finding: >" Ambassador Rice’s September 16 public statements about the existence of a protest, as well as some of the underlying intelligence reports, proved to be inaccurate."<

    No **** Sherlock, when hasn't the Obama administration not lied ?..."<
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the best you can do ?

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's the best you can do ?
    It's all you've got.
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