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Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

CanadaJohn said:
Your posts are idiotic, full of lies and bluster
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More lies from you. My posts are full of facts which I source in every post. The fact you believe the truth is idiotic shows just how up the rear end of the Republican party you are.

and when you're called out you run and hide
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What a ridiculous comment. The fact you think that not replying in a span of 20 minutes (WHILE I was in the middle of writing my response, mind you) is an indication of running and hiding is ludicrous.

try to change the context, and claim you're too busy to respond. Pathetic.
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You cannot be serious. The only thing which is pathetic is the constant telling of lies and then trying to attack someone because they were not at a computer for 20 minutes.

Criticizing someone for not posting within 20 minutes could be considered borderline crazy.

What do you think "inflammatory material" referred to?
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It could refer to anything, it was not specific in the least. That's the point.

Try not to post an answer that makes your position look even more pathetic.
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Says the person who has posted lie after lie to avoid admitting the Republican party politicized Benghazi before the bodies had even grown cold. Even if we accept your absurd argument that a very general statement indicated a specific position, it STILL wouldn't be an example of "the left" turning Benghazi into a left vs. right issue.

When your best argument doesn't even attempt to refute the clear truth of Republicans politicizing Benghazi, that's when you know you've lost.

PS: I'm going to post this. If you do not reply in 30 seconds, it is clear you are running and hiding. The clock is ticking.
Grant said:
Really??? The Anti-Anti-Islam Film TV Ad By US in Pakistan Repudiating Film - YouTube
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If you can't be bothered to understand what's being talked about, don't waste my time.

We're talking about who turned this into a "left vs. right" issue first. CanadaJohn posted a statement from Hillary shortly after the attack. Nothing in that statement mentions a video.

Either learn what the hell is going on or don't waste my time.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Your posts are idiotic
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Funny - it took mere seconds for you to post up and call me idiotic and yet when you are shown to be wrong, all we get is crickets.
 
j-mac said:
Hey there Glen...Good luck on your case...I hope you prevail.
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Thanks - I am cautiously confident we'll win...but I'm no lawyer - I'm a complete noob in the courtroom, and I'm up against an assistant AG. Even though she was given a bum case to defend, I don't want to underestimate her or overestimate myself....
 
Slyfox696 said:
More lies from you. My posts are full of facts which I source in every post. The fact you believe the truth is idiotic shows just how up the rear end of the Republican party you are.

What a ridiculous comment. The fact you think that not replying in a span of 20 minutes (WHILE I was in the middle of writing my response, mind you) is an indication of running and hiding is ludicrous.

You cannot be serious. The only thing which is pathetic is the constant telling of lies and then trying to attack someone because they were not at a computer for 20 minutes.

Criticizing someone for not posting within 20 minutes could be considered borderline crazy.

It could refer to anything, it was not specific in the least. That's the point.

Says the person who has posted lie after lie to avoid admitting the Republican party politicized Benghazi before the bodies had even grown cold. Even if we accept your absurd argument that a very general statement indicated a specific position, it STILL wouldn't be an example of "the left" turning Benghazi into a left vs. right issue.

When your best argument doesn't even attempt to refute the clear truth of Republicans politicizing Benghazi, that's when you know you've lost.

PS: I'm going to post this. If you do not reply in 30 seconds, it is clear you are running and hiding. The clock is ticking.
If you can't be bothered to understand what's being talked about, don't waste my time.

We're talking about who turned this into a "left vs. right" issue first. CanadaJohn posted a statement from Hillary shortly after the attack. Nothing in that statement mentions a video.

Either learn what the hell is going on or don't waste my time.
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If your posts didn't have haughty arrogance, you'd have nothing at all.
 
Grant said:
Really? Point out the quotes which are untrue and they'll be withdrawn.

These quotes aren't exclusive to any one website, btw. You can check them for yourself if you're interested in learning before posting.
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Here's the timeline showing how Bush lied us into war with Iraq, including how he was briefed by the intel community that there was no link between Saddam and al-Qaeda.
 
CanadaJohn said:
If your posts didn't have haughty arrogance, you'd have nothing at all.
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My posts are full of facts. Your posts in this thread have contained lies and silly attacks about how long it takes to respond.

Both Romney and Priebus made this a left vs. right issue. You know it, I know it...show a little objectivity and admit it. The best you have is a very general and non-specific statement from Clinton, which in no way accuses or condemns Republicans or "the right" for anything.

Republicans made this a left vs. right issue. For you to claim otherwise would be dishonest. Are you willing to admit you were wrong before?
CanadaJohn said:
You told me you were running away
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Please show me where I used the exact words "I'm running away".

If you cannot do this (and you cannot), then I'll expect an apology for another false statement from you.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Please show me where I used the exact words "I'm running away".
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I appreciate you're a literalist when convenient - anyone for a discussion of "inflammatory material" again?

When challenged to put up or shut up, you said "I'm logging off the forum now and probably won't be back for a while.". When someone doesn't respond to a direct challenge and leaves, that's considered running away.

Some of us have superior intelligence and can actually review words in context and not rely solely on a parsing of the language in a literal sense.

But do continue calling me a liar and then demanding that I apologize for your lies - that is kind of fun in a teasing the cat sort of way.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I appreciate you're a literalist when convenient - anyone for a discussion of "inflammatory material" again?

When challenged to put up or shut up, you said "I'm logging off the forum now and probably won't be back for a while.". When someone doesn't respond to a direct challenge and leaves, that's considered running away.

Some of us have superior intelligence and can actually review words in context and not rely solely on a parsing of the language in a literal sense.

But do continue calling me a liar and then demanding that I apologize for your lies - that is kind of fun in a teasing the cat sort of way.
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Why do you bother with this guy?
 
Slyfox696 said:
No, they were just doing it on the very same day:

"I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It's disgraceful that the Obama Administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks."

But go on telling everyone how it was anyone other than Republicans who politicized what happened in Benghazi.
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It's amazing anyone is actually arguing the GOP hasn't made BENGHAZI!!!! their political curse to hang on Clinton and Obama from day one. When Romney releases a statement with the word "disgraceful" before he CAN know a damn thing about what actually happened and why is really all the proof one needs. He couldn't even wait till the next morning to start making it a desperation attempt to turn around a losing campaign.

The other problem is the 'issue' if there was ever one was limited to the initial statements about the causes of the attack, and that for some period of DAYS the Administration mischaracterized the motives of the attackers. Does anyone even today know their motives? I've never seen evidence that is conclusive. But let's say we knew their motives immediately or within a day or so, and it was NOT about a video but about something else which we're still not certain of and certainly didn't know at the time, but NOT, NOT the video!! We had many attacks on U.S. facilities abroad and pretty much no one cared why before, but OK, that's a fair issue during a bare fisted political campaign. The problem is we're now 2+ years past the campaign ending, Romney lost and yet we've had non-stop bogus allegations, rumors, accusations, and it was ALL crap. They even included the shameful accusation that the Obama admin, and the U.S. military, and the CIA, left those people to die for presumably political reasons.

So to say after all that the GOP didn't intend from day ONE to make this political is just an exercise in living in an alternate universe.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I appreciate you're a literalist when convenient - anyone for a discussion of "inflammatory material" again?

When challenged to put up or shut up, you said "I'm logging off the forum now and probably won't be back for a while.".
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Which was immediately followed with:

"Would you like a little pat on the head before I go with a promise I'll be back?"

Once more, you are resorting to dishonesty in your posts. I clearly indicated I would return eventually to respond to whatever nonsense you were going to post. I only included that because of your absurd contention that not replying within an arbitrarily set amount of time meant I was hiding.

The fact you have no choice but to resort to posts with provably false statements shows you know how wrong you are. You're not even trying to hide the fact you were wrong, but rather now have resorted to dishonestly omitting words from a post which show the true meaning of my statements.

When someone doesn't respond to a direct challenge and leaves, that's considered running away.
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No, it's called "having something to do besides sit on a computer".

Perhaps you have no life, but most of us have things we have to do. It must be nice not to have a life which requires you to step away from a computer, but unfortunately, we all don't have such a luxury.

Some of us have superior intelligence
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Yes, some of us do. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in this conversation who seems to possess it.

and can actually review words in context
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Then why did you deliberately omit the context which showed I wasn't running away and would reply to your post when I returned?

There's a real level of dishonesty to claim to be able to review words in context in the same post you deliberately omit context.

But do continue calling me a liar
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I'm not calling you a liar, I'm proving your posts are full of lies. There's a difference.

and then demanding that I apologize
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It's what someone with integrity would do when they are definitively proven to be wrong. Lying is what someone does when, after having proven to be wrong, they continue to knowingly post false statements.

You should apologize for making your provably false statements. You haven't.

for your lies
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I haven't lied once. Nothing Clinton said blamed anything on Republicans or "the right", while Republicans were blaming Obama before the bodies were cold. I never said I was running away. The only one who has posted lies has been you and I have proven it.
CanadaJohn said:
He's so earnest in his pomposity - it's fun to burst his inflated ego.
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If you think deliberately posting statements which you know to be false is bursting my ego, then you really need to take a moment away from the computer. I have proven you wrong time and again. All you're doing is boosting my ego, because I know that even you know the things you are posting are untrue.
 
JasperL said:
It's amazing anyone is actually arguing the GOP hasn't made BENGHAZI!!!! their political curse to hang on Clinton and Obama from day one.
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It's because they have no integrity. All they want to do is bleat their political party's nonsense, without having to worry about things like honesty, integrity or critical thinking. Ever since Obama came into office, I've noticed so many Republicans turn off their ability to debate intelligently. Now they are just regurgitating provably false statements.

When Romney releases a statement with the word "disgraceful" before he CAN know a damn thing about what actually happened and why is really all the proof one needs. He couldn't even wait till the next morning to start making it a desperation attempt to turn around a losing campaign.
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Exactly.

There's no excusing the faults which led up to the attack, nor can there be a question this was a black eye for a President who was running hard on his foreign policy experience (whether it should have been or should not have been a black eye for him can be disputed, but there's no disputing is was going to be). But when people try to absolve the Republicans of their responsibility for turning Benghazi into a political issue, and excuse their continuous attempts to exploit the deaths of Americans, then that's when I have a problem.

So to say after all that the GOP didn't intend from day ONE to make this political is just an exercise in living in an alternate universe.
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It's what so many Republicans have chosen to do since the day Obama took office. I have no love for Democrats, but Republicans have been borderline insane for the last 6 years.
 
tres borrachos said:
No, I don't care what Grant posted, and not even in a passive aggressive way.

Next time you want my attention you should quote me.
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You cared enough to respond. LOL
 
tres borrachos said:
And tell him I didn't care about what Grant posted, which he (and you) seemed to think I cared about.

"LOL"
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And, the quest to get the last word in....LOL
 
JasperL said:
The other problem is the 'issue' if there was ever one was limited to the initial statements about the causes of the attack, and that for some period of DAYS the Administration mischaracterized the motives of the attackers. Does anyone even today know their motives? I've never seen evidence that is conclusive.
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Some people feel it was linked to September 11.
 
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