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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    That means the investigations by the Republican-led House are, what, 0-for-7 in their attempts to claim that the Obama, Hillary, et al somehow caused the death of the ambassador and/or tried to cover it up.

    Which means that either the Democrats are so doggone smart and organized that even the House Intelligence Committee, with all its resources and influence, couldn't break the liberal Cosa Nostra...or there was simply nothing there to begin with.

    But obviously it's all a grand conspiracy.....


    Heya Glen Graham and the Senate Committee have a different take.....can you point out where Graham is wrong? He was one that was actually Questioning people. Like Graham says he isn't going for the Intel Community passing the buck onto the State Dept.


    Oh and the one report that will matter is from the Select committee. That's the investigation that is still on going.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You're a hypocrite.

    Trying to minimize ths deaths of four Americans because your'e too dishonest to admit you were lied too.

    Did Bush attempt cover up the deaths of four Americans right before a Presidential election ?

    Did Bush leave a consulate unprotected after a attack that blew a 12 foot hole in the compound wall ?

    Hilary and Obama didn't even have a back up plan in place after EVERYONE else including the Red Cross bailed out.

    Next time take a whole 3 minutes and vet your Presidential candidate properly before condemning the rest of America to the stupidity that is your blind allegiance to a corrupt ideology.
    No, but I do remember Bush lying us into a war where thousands of American military personnel (and over 100K Iraqi citizens) were killed. Remember, the invasion of Iraq was discussed in Bush's very first cabinet meeting, several months before 9/11 happened. 9/11 simply provided him a convenient excuse to go forward with the invasion.

    Here's more:

    In February 2001, a month after Bush’s inauguration, White House officials discussed a memo called “Plan for Post-Saddam Iraq,” which described troop requirements, establishing war crimes tribunals, and dividing up Iraq’s oil wealth.” Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill was astonished to discover that actual plans “were already being discussed to take over Iraq and occupy it – complete with disposition of oil fields, peacekeeping forces, and war crimes tribunals – carrying forward an unspoken doctrine of preemptive war.” According to O’Neill, a preemptive attack on Iraq and the prospect of dividing the world’s second largest oil reserve among the world’s contractors “made for an irresistible combination.”
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    No, but I do remember Bush lying us into a war where thousands of American military personnel (and over 100K Iraqi citizens) were killed. Remember, the invasion of Iraq was discussed in Bush's very first cabinet meeting, several months before 9/11 happened. 9/11 simply provided him a convenient excuse to go forward with the invasion.

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    In February 2001, a month after Bush’s inauguration, White House officials discussed a memo called “Plan for Post-Saddam Iraq,” which described troop requirements, establishing war crimes tribunals, and dividing up Iraq’s oil wealth.” Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill was astonished to discover that actual plans “were already being discussed to take over Iraq and occupy it – complete with disposition of oil fields, peacekeeping forces, and war crimes tribunals – carrying forward an unspoken doctrine of preemptive war.” According to O’Neill, a preemptive attack on Iraq and the prospect of dividing the world’s second largest oil reserve among the world’s contractors “made for an irresistible combination.”


    Well that won't help here with Benghazi Glen. Which really the whole issue of Libya should also be put into play with all BO had to say and not just Benghazi. Which then there is another issue connected to another country that is also involved.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Glen Graham and the Senate Committee have a different take.....can you point out where Graham is wrong? He was one that was actually Questioning people. Like Graham says he isn't going for the Intel Community passing the buck onto the State Dept.


    Oh and the one report that will matter is from the Select committee. That's the investigation that is still on going.
    Hi, MMC. Had to stay away for a while - life happened. You'd have loved it - a grand case of government overreach.
    The state came by and shut down our business thanks to pictures that we have since proven were staged and sent in with false claims...but the state investigator never asked our side of the story, and now we're going through the appeal process and they're represented by an Assistant Attorney General...whereas it's just me representing my wife and myself. But I sorta feel sorry for that AAG because the state handed them a bum case, and - God willing - I'm going to rub their noses in it. It's a long, long story, but I can prove that the state witnesses changed their testimony, that the investigator changed words from her notes to her official allegations, and that in most of the investigation, never ever asked our side of the story concerning the allegations. So if we do indeed win, I can't go around bragging I beat an AAG - they were handed a mostly-indefensible case. In mid-January I'll drop off the radar again so I can prepare for the last three days of the case in early February.

    Government overreach shutting down my wife's small business on false pretenses - it's almost enough for this liberal to start yelling for small government. The irony is that the lead investigator and her husband are prominent Republicans in the county....

    But back to the discussion -

    Well, seeing as how Graham wouldn't say why he dismissed the report's findings, but would only 'suggest' people were lying, well, no, I don't really give a whole lot of weight to his claim. That, and this IS the 7th investigation in the GOP-led House's quest to blame it all on the Dems. And they've shot nothing but blanks. So either Dems are THAT good and THAT sneaky and THAT organized and THAT dedicated to an unbreakable code of silence...or there's no 'there' there. From The Hill:

    Graham didn’t clearly pinpoint why he dismissed the report’s findings, but suggested its information was provided by people in the intelligence community who had previously lied to Congress about the attack.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well that won't help here with Benghazi Glen. Which really the whole issue of Libya should also be put into play with all BO had to say and not just Benghazi. Which then there is another issue connected to another country that is also involved.
    I only brought up Bush and Iraq because Fenton was apparently thinking that Bush was some kind of cowboy with a white hat.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Hi, MMC. Had to stay away for a while - life happened. You'd have loved it - a grand case of government overreach.
    The state came by and shut down our business thanks to pictures that we have since proven were staged and sent in with false claims...but the state investigator never asked our side of the story, and now we're going through the appeal process and they're represented by an Assistant Attorney General...whereas it's just me representing my wife and myself. But I sorta feel sorry for that AAG because the state handed them a bum case, and - God willing - I'm going to rub their noses in it. It's a long, long story, but I can prove that the state witnesses changed their testimony, that the investigator changed words from her notes to her official allegations, and that in most of the investigation, never ever asked our side of the story concerning the allegations. So if we do indeed win, I can't go around bragging I beat an AAG - they were handed a mostly-indefensible case. In mid-January I'll drop off the radar again so I can prepare for the last three days of the case in early February.

    Government overreach shutting down my wife's small business on false pretenses - it's almost enough for this liberal to start yelling for small government. The irony is that the lead investigator and her husband are prominent Republicans in the county....

    But back to the discussion -

    Well, seeing as how Graham wouldn't say why he dismissed the report's findings, but would only 'suggest' people were lying, well, no, I don't really give a whole lot of weight to his claim. That, and this IS the 7th investigation in the GOP-led House's quest to blame it all on the Dems. And they've shot nothing but blanks. So either Dems are THAT good and THAT sneaky and THAT organized and THAT dedicated to an unbreakable code of silence...or there's no 'there' there. From The Hill:

    Graham didn’t clearly pinpoint why he dismissed the report’s findings, but suggested its information was provided by people in the intelligence community who had previously lied to Congress about the attack.


    Sure he did, he Pointed out to who and when the talking points were changed. Which came out from the after the lawsuit being Filed. Which was what the Senate Committee and also from the Independent Investigation came up with when looking at the State Dept.

    Also, he gives out the Info that Susan Rice didn't have. Yet someone gave her that talking point. See Graham knows that Intel can't blame just themselves. Nor say.....that nothing was politically motivated.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    No, but I do remember Bush lying us into a war where thousands of American military personnel (and over 100K Iraqi citizens) were killed. Remember, the invasion of Iraq was discussed in Bush's very first cabinet meeting, several months before 9/11 happened. 9/11 simply provided him a convenient excuse to go forward with the invasion.

    Here's more:

    In February 2001, a month after Bush’s inauguration, White House officials discussed a memo called “Plan for Post-Saddam Iraq,” which described troop requirements, establishing war crimes tribunals, and dividing up Iraq’s oil wealth.” Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill was astonished to discover that actual plans “were already being discussed to take over Iraq and occupy it – complete with disposition of oil fields, peacekeeping forces, and war crimes tribunals – carrying forward an unspoken doctrine of preemptive war.” According to O’Neill, a preemptive attack on Iraq and the prospect of dividing the world’s second largest oil reserve among the world’s contractors “made for an irresistible combination.”

    More nonsense

    Numerous Democrats alluded to Saddam's growing stock pile of WMD prior to the bi-partisan vote on the Iraq resolution.

    Even Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and John Kerry and Al Gore.

    In 2008 the Air Force airlifted Tons of yellow cake Uranium out of Iraq and the recent disclosure of thousands of warheads filled chemical agents pretty much debunks the lefts claims that Bush lied about WMD.

    Anyway, this thread is about a unprecedented Democrat covering up of the deaths of four Americans for political purposes.

    Not about debunked false narratives like " Bush lied people died "

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    More nonsense

    Numerous Democrats alluded to Saddam's growing stock pile of WMD prior to the bi-partisan vote on the Iraq resolution.

    Even Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and John Kerry and Al Gore.

    In 2008 the Air Force airlifted Tons of yellow cake Uranium out of Iraq and the recent disclosure of thousands of warheads filled chemical agents pretty much debunks the lefts claims that Bush lied about WMD.

    Anyway, this thread is about a unprecedented Democrat covering up of the deaths of four Americans for political purposes.

    Not about debunked false narratives like " Bush lied people died "
    Have I told you lately how much I admire you not letting others get away with revisionism? Something often done in history but as of late it now involves recent or current affairs. Kudos.

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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    More nonsense

    Numerous Democrats alluded to Saddam's growing stock pile of WMD prior to the bi-partisan vote on the Iraq resolution.

    Even Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and John Kerry and Al Gore.

    In 2008 the Air Force airlifted Tons of yellow cake Uranium out of Iraq and the recent disclosure of thousands of warheads filled chemical agents pretty much debunks the lefts claims that Bush lied about WMD.

    Anyway, this thread is about a unprecedented Democrat covering up of the deaths of four Americans for political purposes.

    Not about debunked false narratives like " Bush lied people died "
    And the reason the Dems were voting for it was that they BELIEVED the intel given them via the Bush Administration. Yes, Fenton, we WERE lied into that war. And no, yellowcake is NOT WMD:

    While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.

    But the yellowcake had not been processed, and Iraq was decades away from having enough centrifuges in order to do so. If Iraq had really wanted nukes, they could have bought them more cheaply from Pakistan.
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    Re: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Hi, MMC. Had to stay away for a while - life happened. You'd have loved it - a grand case of government overreach.
    The state came by and shut down our business thanks to pictures that we have since proven were staged and sent in with false claims...but the state investigator never asked our side of the story, and now we're going through the appeal process and they're represented by an Assistant Attorney General...whereas it's just me representing my wife and myself. But I sorta feel sorry for that AAG because the state handed them a bum case, and - God willing - I'm going to rub their noses in it. It's a long, long story, but I can prove that the state witnesses changed their testimony, that the investigator changed words from her notes to her official allegations, and that in most of the investigation, never ever asked our side of the story concerning the allegations. So if we do indeed win, I can't go around bragging I beat an AAG - they were handed a mostly-indefensible case. In mid-January I'll drop off the radar again so I can prepare for the last three days of the case in early February.

    Government overreach shutting down my wife's small business on false pretenses - it's almost enough for this liberal to start yelling for small government. The irony is that the lead investigator and her husband are prominent Republicans in the county....

    But back to the discussion -

    Well, seeing as how Graham wouldn't say why he dismissed the report's findings, but would only 'suggest' people were lying, well, no, I don't really give a whole lot of weight to his claim. That, and this IS the 7th investigation in the GOP-led House's quest to blame it all on the Dems. And they've shot nothing but blanks. So either Dems are THAT good and THAT sneaky and THAT organized and THAT dedicated to an unbreakable code of silence...or there's no 'there' there. From The Hill:

    Graham didn’t clearly pinpoint why he dismissed the report’s findings, but suggested its information was provided by people in the intelligence community who had previously lied to Congress about the attack.
    Greetings, Glen Contrarian.

    I just wanted to jump in here to say Good Luck! Political parties aside, we are all humans, and everyone should be outraged by how you were treated! This just isn't right, and it's outrageous to hear about! The fact that you have to take the time to defend yourself against this is not only unjust, but costly to you! Again, Good Luck!

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