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    Re: 30,000 missing emails from IRS' Lerner recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I don't think that is what is going on.
    I think they were told that if the backup server were lost, the DR files that went with it were unrecoverable.
    You don't think that is what is going on?
    That he didn't bother to tell them that they were lost to begin with as he was told?
    Koskinen hasn't been straight forward and forthcoming.
    While there may be nothing untoward happening, my question is still valid and his lack in being straight forward is just reason to ask/investigate further.
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    Re: 30,000 missing emails from IRS' Lerner recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You don't think that is what is going on?
    That he didn't bother to tell them that they were lost to begin with as he was told?
    Koskinen hasn't been straight forward and forthcoming.
    While there may be nothing untoward happening, my question is still valid and his lack in being straight forward is just reason to ask/investigate further.
    I think they were told the files were unrecoverable, The fact that they are, is likely an very unpleasant bit of news.

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    Re: 30,000 missing emails from IRS' Lerner recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I think they were told the files were unrecoverable, The fact that they are, is likely an very unpleasant bit of news.
    1. Really? Are you not aware that he did not tell Congress when he found that out?
    2. ??? The report from the OP says they are recoverable. So the question is valid.
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    Re: 30,000 missing emails from IRS' Lerner recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    And here we already have an excuse should they not find the "evidence" they are not looking for as much as wanting.
    Are you saying this administration wouldn't try to cover anything up? If you are, you're a fool.

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    Re: 30,000 missing emails from IRS' Lerner recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Please show your evidence they tried to hide the emails? If you don't have any, its a GD lie.
    The IRS said Friday that it has lost emails from five other employees involved in congressional probes into the agency's targeting of conservative groups, leading one top Republican to declare "this pattern must stop."

    "The IRS’s ever-changing story is practically impossible to follow at this point, as they modify it each time to accommodate new facts," Issa, R-Calif., said. "This pattern must stop."

    IRS says it has lost emails from 5 other employees related to probes | Fox News
    1. I believe the government uses Microsoft Exchange for their email servers. They have built-in exchange mail database redundancy. So, unless they did not follow Microsofts recommendations they are telling a falsehood. You can see by the diagram below that if you have three servers in a DAG you have three copies of the database.

    2. Every IT organization that I know of has hotswappable disk drives. Every server built since 2000 has them. Meaning that if a single disk goes bad it’s easy to replace.

    3. ALL Servers use some form of RAID technology. The only way that data can be totally lost (Meaning difficult to bring back) is if more than a single disk goes before the first bad disk is replaced. In the diagram below you can see that its possible to lose a single disk and still keep the data.

    4. If the server crashed (Hardware failure other than disks), then the disks that contain the DATA for the Exchange database is still available because the server hardware and disks are exchangeable. Meaning that if I have another server with the same hardware in it, I can put the disks in and everything should boot right up.

    5. All email servers in a professional organization use TAPE backup. Meaning if all the above fails, you can restore the server using the TAPE backups.

    6. If they are talking about her local PC, then it’s a simple matter of going to the servers which have the email and getting them from the servers. If the servers have removed the data you can still get them by using the backups of the servers to recover the emails.

    Veteran IT Professional Gives Six Reasons Why the IRS’ Claim That It ‘Lost’ Two Years of Lois Lerner’s Emails Is ‘Simply Not Feasible’ | TheBlaze.com
    IRS attorneys conceded that they had failed to search the agency’s servers for missing emails because they decided that “the servers would not result in the recovery of any information.” They admitted they had failed to search the agency’s disaster recovery tapes because they had “no reason to believe that the tapes are a potential source of recovering” the missing emails. And they conceded that they had not searched the government-wide back-up system because they had “no reason to believe such a system…even exists.”

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...P5dwDKPTznwxqg
    First, there was no targeting by the IRS. Then there was, but only by those rogue IRS employees down in Cincinnati. Then, there was a spontaneous uprising from a YouTube video (oops sorry, wrong lie scandal). There was confusion about how to apply the tax law, but not political, and not from above. Then, top IRS Official Lois Lerner refused to testify.

    IRS Commissioner Miller seemed defiant too and was sacked. Then, there was a year-long Congressional investigation before the IRS finally admitted the 2009 through 2011 Lois Lerner’s emails ‘disappeared.’ Then, the backups didn’t work were recycled. Then, the new IRS Commissioner said the IRS needs a bigger tech budget.

    The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration has confirmed that, on top of the backed-up email horde, there are also nearly 2,500 documents relating to investigations of the improper disclosure of confidential taxpayer information by the IRS to the White House. Yes, the White House.

    In 'Lost' Trove Of IRS Emails, 2,500 May Link White House To Confidential Taxpayer Data - Forbes
    So I gave you 1. IRS was inconsistent (first sign of a lie) 2. IT technical explanation why the IRS story was unlikely to be true 3. An admission by the IRS that they didn't even try to find the "missing" e-mails 4. A summary of the changing lies and the realization that 2500 emails between Louis Lerner and the White House were among the "lost" emails.

    No lies here. Just speculation based on the events that lie before us. If this was GWB, you'd be standing on Pennsylvania Avenue with your guillotine and a sign calling for his execution.
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    Re: 30,000 missing emails from IRS' Lerner recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    They went to such great lengths to hide these e-mails...I'd be surprised if they didn't find something in them.
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Please show your evidence they tried to hide the emails? If you don't have any, its a GD lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    So I gave you 1. IRS was inconsistent (first sign of a lie) 2. IT technical explanation why the IRS story was unlikely to be true 3. An admission by the IRS that they didn't even try to find the "missing" e-mails 4. A summary of the changing lies and the realization that 2500 emails between Louis Lerner and the White House were among the "lost" emails.

    No lies here. Just speculation based on the events that lie before us. If this was GWB, you'd be standing on Pennsylvania Avenue with your guillotine and a sign calling for his execution.
    Thank You, Thank You for your work on this, I appreciate it.
    As for me standing on Pennsylvania Avenue all I can say is, I don't think I would, I am not that type of person.


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