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LOL. No. You might be delusional.



And you are still completely wrong. It is amazing just how little we learn in school these days. The money is not pooled. No one is redistributing wealth. I just have to say, "wow!"

So you think that the premiums that I pay to my health insurance company are all sitting in an account with my name on it? Like I can withdraw my premiums any time that I desire? Or that if I had a big medical bill, the insurance company wouldn't have to honor our contract because I hadn't paid enough into that insurance account to cover the bill?

Yup, I also just have to say "wow", it's amazing just how little you are learning in your school.
 
No. These hedge funds are very different. You have an account, and your money is your money.

How is it different? I have an insurance plan. My money is my money, and I use it for the services I get with my insurance. I pay fees and I get a service, just like with any hedge fund I have invested in, or managed.

It might be news to you, but insurance companies are not piling these premiums collected by insurance policy holders. By your logic, a hedge fund is not any different from an insurance company.

I have had insurance continuously for the past 25 years, yet I have never once filed a claim. So are you suggesting that I can now just "cash in" on my healthcare insurance and get all my premiums back?

Or are you saying that I can contact my money manager and tell him that I had an unexpected expense, and somehow "withdraw" more money than I have in my account?

I am saying, "you get out what you paid in with insurance." I asked, "How is that socialist?"

Address my words, not your assumptions.

You may have worked on Wall Street, but I'm beginning to suspect you are a janitor or the mail clerk, as you have absolutely no understanding of how these things work.

Haven't you already learned by now that playing that card doesn't work out well for you? Also, I haven't claimed to work on Wall Street, ever. Since I don't like bragging about my work, I'll let my about me page do it for me.
 
So you think that the premiums that I pay to my health insurance company are all sitting in an account with my name on it? Like I can withdraw my premiums any time that I desire? Or that if I had a big medical bill, the insurance company wouldn't have to honor our contract because I hadn't paid enough into that insurance account to cover the bill?

Yup, I also just have to say "wow", it's amazing just how little you are learning in your school.
No. I think enterprising people made a business out of determining how to make a profit by assuming some of your risk. That is not socialism. Ignorance is just so damned ugly. The worst part is not all the things you don't know, it is all the things you know that are not true.
 
I'm not the norm, but thousands if not millions of families have been turned down for insurance on the bases that someone is too high of a risk, essentially dumping much of the health care cost of those people onto everyone else in the form of jacked up prices at the emergency room. People like my wife, who would have gladly contributed to the system by purchasing a health insurance policy, if she could have found a company that would cover her.


As I said, I don't think we needed the ACA to fix "pre existing conditions" denials...But to the further point you make, can you tell me how much Health Insurance premiums have gone down since the inception of the ACA? Oh wait, they haven't. Can you tell me if deductibles for insurance coverage has gone down? No, it hasn't....So, what exactly did this fix? Or, was it that the burden of insuring those that were without coverage, were pushed into something, and that something was going to be paid for by taking from the middle class, and distributing to these people via Medicaid, or subsidy. And it was blatantly lied about to get passed...But hey, as long as you are doing fine with it...

Me either. I met with our congressman (at the time), Bob Inglis, to push for a better solution. My ideas fell on deaf ears.

I'm far from an Obummercare supporter. I don't like the partisan hate speech and lies that so many on the radical right spew out, and when I point out the fallacy in those lies, the anti-logic that people like Rush use to trick otherwise perfectly normal people into despising Obama to the degree that they wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. I've never see hatred of any president to this degree, I suspect that the fact that a black man is in the white house has caused this (not suggesting that every Obummer hater is a racist, only that when we are told lie after lie after lie for long enough, we naturally start believing that they are true, and have thus have been brainwashed to hate Obummer).

Maybe the President wouldn't garner such ill will toward him, if he weren't such a dishonest, racebaiter himself.
 
How is it different? I have an insurance plan. My money is my money, and I use it for the services I get with my insurance. I pay fees and I get a service, just like with any hedge fund I have invested in, or managed.

It might be news to you, but insurance companies are not piling these premiums collected by insurance policy holders. By your logic, a hedge fund is not any different from an insurance company.



I am saying, "you get out what you paid in with insurance." I asked, "How is that socialist?"

Address my words, not your assumptions.



Haven't you already learned by now that playing that card doesn't work out well for you? Also, I haven't claimed to work on Wall Street, ever. Since I don't like bragging about my work, I'll let my about me page do it for me.

Damn girl....Just damn....
 
As I said, I don't think we needed the ACA to fix "pre existing conditions" denials...But to the further point you make, can you tell me how much Health Insurance premiums have gone down since the inception of the ACA? Oh wait, they haven't.

We really don't know yet. I keep waiting for someone to do a apples to apples comparison, haven't seen one yet.

What I do know is that MY rate went down, not because the insurance company charged less, but because I started getting rebate checks.

Can you tell me if deductibles for insurance coverage has gone down? No, it hasn't....So, what exactly did this fix?

It's my position that low deductibles and copays are part of the problem, not part of the solution. So yes, the ACA did move in the right direction here. Copays and deductibles should be HIGHER.

Or, was it that the burden of insuring those that were without coverage, were pushed into something, and that something was going to be paid for by taking from the middle class, and distributing to these people via Medicaid, or subsidy. And it was blatantly lied about to get passed...But hey, as long as you are doing fine with it...

The bulk of the subsidies will be paid for from the fine/tax of those who arent responsible enough to acquire insurance.
 
We really don't know yet. I keep waiting for someone to do a apples to apples comparison, haven't seen one yet.

What I do know is that MY rate went down, not because the insurance company charged less, but because I started getting rebate checks.
Plunder is still plunder. You plunder your neighbors and call it a step in the right direction. When the government is complicit in the plunder we live in a state of tyranny.
 
As I said, I don't think we needed the ACA to fix "pre existing conditions" denials...

So do you think this would have been fixed on its own or do you just not think it should have been fixed?
 
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