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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

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    Is it better than the Senate jacuzzi though?
    I doubt it. That's probably why the republicans wanted to take over the Senate. Some things are simply more important that politics.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Regardless of your political leanings, don't you want to ensure that your President doesn't overstep the bounds of what a single person should be able to do vis-a-vis the legal/justice system in your country?
    Absolutely, but overturning this executive action would open a huge can of worms, and put the validity of every other past executive action for the past 200+ years into question.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
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    It still amazes me, frankly, that a country that was born out of the tyranny of a monarch so readily gave what seem to me regal powers to a single man/woman who happens to hold the Presidency.
    We seem to like strong leaders.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    Any legislative action taken (even after January) requires the President's signature. A compromise with the President is going to be virtually impossible after the President has taken this EO action. There will be no compromise. A Republican bill to reform immigration would not meet the President's requirements, he would not sign it, and the EO would remain in place until legislation is passed on the President's terms. That's just the way it works. There is certainly little likelihood of both houses of congress overturning a veto.

    The EO stays unless judicial action is taken. An injunction could be issued by a lower court prohibiting the government from issuing the work permits and temporary resident card pending the outcome of the suit.
    I don't disagree, but the exercise of transparency is important. I don't mind an Obama veto politically.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why do the Tyrant supporters laugh so readily in the face of such enormous tyranny?
    Why do the hyperbole idiots that call Obama a Tyrant, so readily demonstrate their complete lack of thought?

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    Any legislative action taken (even after January) requires the President's signature. A compromise with the President is going to be virtually impossible after the President has taken this EO action. There will be no compromise. A Republican bill to reform immigration would not meet the President's requirements, he would not sign it, and the EO would remain in place until legislation is passed on the President's terms. ...
    I wouldn't be surprised of congress doesn't pass a bill that is nearly identical to Obama's illegal executive aministy.

    It's all about votes. Our elections are so close that we call it a landslide when a candidate wins by just 6%. We are fairly equally divided between the two parties. If the republicans don't respond to this executive action, in just the right way, then dems will pick up almost 100% of the latino vote next go round, and there will be almost no way that republicans can win.

    Republicans would be smart to make a deal with Obama, offering to pass a bill in January, if Obama delays his executive action until Feb 1st. If republicans get this right, then Obama will still be able to save face as he would have forced congress to act, and republicans would be able to keep their share of latino voters.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I'm not familiar with what that is. Is it like a "stern scolding"?
    Yeah, and one that goes down with the record.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well they did call up a bill and like all thought.....Reid and the Demos didn't let it make it to BO's desk. They did this before they went on break. So the Bills will start coming and Reid will be done playing head games.
    Which bill was that? It wasn't the bipartisan immigration bill that passed the Senate 68-32 and is sitting in the House waiting on Boner to bring it up for a vote, and that would have passed it he'd allowed it to get a vote.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Absolutely, but overturning this executive action would open a huge can of worms, and put the validity of every other past executive action for the past 200+ years into question.
    I see. So, by the same reasoning, the Supreme Court should never overrule one of its earlier decisions--that would open a huge can of worms, and call the validity of every other Supreme Court decision for the past 200-plus years into question.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Which bill was that? It wasn't the bipartisan immigration bill that passed the Senate 68-32 and is sitting in the House waiting on Boner to bring it up for a vote, and that would have passed it he'd allowed it to get a vote.
    No, it was the Keystone Bill that the Demos just dumped on.

    Besides, the Bill you are talking about from the Senate......Harry Reid pulled back the Border Security Provision of the Bill, and has been holding it ever since then.

    Even after the bills that were sent which BO didn't like. That came during the surge of children, with the Southern Border.

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