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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Historically, the SCOTUS can overturn an executive order if it's unclear the EO is supported by law and the Congress is vehemently against it.

    In addition, Congress can pass legislation that overrides it, or a budget that excludes the EO funding, though the President can veto it .. quite the can of worms.
    I'm pretty sure that Congress passing legislation should be pretty easy if they are 'vehemently' against it.

    But they are not. At least not all of them. And the sensible part of the GOP knows by going ape**** over the issue t is going to really kill them with voters in 2016. But the dominant nutbag part of the party doesnt get that, and will quite likely torpedo the party over this issue over the next year.

    Remember when the GOP said that immigration reform was their 'top issue' back in 2012? Obama has just forced them to actually make it their top issue. And all things point to the outcomes looking bad and nativist sentiment dominating. And we are probably going to see an amazing implosion as the Steve King's of the world become the mouthpiece of the GOP on immigration, and Boehner cries in his whiskey.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    They also can write up a Letter of Disapproval. One from the people too.

    Publicly for the record......as in We the People Disapprove of your unlawful acts and lawlessness.
    Greetings, MMC.

    That might work except for the fact that he really doesn't care one bit if we disapprove - it's just a bunch of words on a piece of paper that would mean nothing to him. Look at the response he made after the Supreme Court voted unanimously that he was over-reaching his authority. He basically told them in response "watch me do it again!" What he wants is more important to him, and we should just give him everything he wants and STFU! People like Jonathon Turley and others aren't ready to do that, though, since they know BHO doesn't have the authority to do anything he feels like doing, so here we go again via the legal system.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Considering that there's basically no difference between the two major parties....they won't. They'll just have Fox start spinning the story that it was all their idea in the first place so they can take credit.
    I keep hearing this "basically no difference between the two major parties" nonsense and wonder what the speakers are smoking!

    Likely they're smoking Libertarian or Independent "tobacco".

    If you don't like either party, okay, that's fair enough.

    But to speak as if one is oblivious to the huge reality of the liberal Democrats that so greatly differs from the conservative Republicans in just obvious policy positions and associated behaviors alone ..

    .. Well, I'm just sayin' "NO!" to your toking offer.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I suspect that Turley is in this for the money. The other issue that could stop this suit dead in its tracks is starting in Jan, this is a new congress who did not vote against the ACA.

    Its not for the money. Think like Dennis Kucinich.....wherein he told BO, that while he liked BO. He luved the Constitution more!



    Law professor, Obama supporter and outspoken liberal Jonathan Turley, a man considered to be a champion of liberal and progressive causes, was interviewed on MSNBC's Hardball tonight and asked his opinion on John Boehner suing the president. Fill-in host Steve Kornacki asked him "Legally speaking" did Boehner have "any kind of a case here?" He responded by saying:


    " Oh, I think there is a case against the president for exceeding his authority. I happen to agree with the president on many of his priorities and policies, but as I testified in Congress, I think that he has crossed the constitutional line."

    Jonathan Turley: Obama Has Effectively Rewritten Laws, "He Has Crossed The Constitutional Line" | Video | RealClearPolitics



    In comments to The Wall Street Journal last week, Mr. Turley said that Mr. Obama’s pending action is likely illegal given its scope. “Presidents have long claimed a high degree of discretion in the immigration area and courts have generally deferred to such decisions when they relate to priorities in enforcement,” he said. “However, the sheer size of this proposed change magnifies the already great concerns under the separation of powers.”.....snip~

    House Republicans Hire Jonathan Turley to Pursue Obama Lawsuit - Washington Wire - WSJ

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, MMC.

    That might work except for the fact that he really doesn't care one bit if we disapprove - it's just a bunch of words on a piece of paper that would mean nothing to him. Look at the response he made after the Supreme Court voted unanimously that he was over-reaching his authority. He basically told them in response "watch me do it again!" What he wants is more important to him, and we should just give him everything he wants and STFU! People like Jonathon Turley and others aren't ready to do that, though, since they know BHO doesn't have the authority to do anything he feels like doing, so here we go again via the legal system.

    That's alright if BO don't care Lady P.....lets ask his kids in a couple of decades.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Congress passing legislation should be pretty easy if they are 'vehemently' against it.

    But they are not. At least not all of them. And the sensible part of the GOP knows by going ape**** over the issue t is going to really kill them with voters in 2016. But the dominant nutbag part of the party doesnt get that, and will quite likely torpedo the party over this issue over the next year.

    Remember when the GOP said that immigration reform was their 'top issue' back in 2012? Obama has just forced them to actually make it their top issue. And all things point to the outcomes looking bad and nativist sentiment dominating. And we are probably going to see an amazing implosion as the Steve King's of the world become the mouthpiece of the GOP on immigration, and Boehner cries in his whiskey.
    Your wishful party thinking is simply that.

    The Republicans aren't going to just lie down and surrender the battle for the 2016 White House.

    As long as there is an electoral college, there will be battleground states that can make an election just like in 2000 ..

    .. And, the majority of the people in those states oppose Obamnesty.

    So you can bet the Repubs are gonna push Obamnesty in the face of always-resident American citizens, all but insuring GOP victory in 2016.

    It simply doesn't matter how many left-wingers in total population there are in California, New York, and Illinois.

    What matters is the way things are right now, the same breakdown as it was in 2000: who gets the most electoral votes: http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2007/02...ollege2000.png.

    If it's former Florida governor Jeb Bush, let's say, vs. Monica Lewinsky's impeached ex-boyfriend's wife, that alone will swing Pennsylvania to red and assure Florida remains red .. and the Dems are as good as .. Gored.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Regardless of your political leanings, don't you want to ensure that your President doesn't overstep the bounds of what a single person should be able to do vis-a-vis the legal/justice system in your country?
    Greetings, CJ.

    Millions of voters in the midterms showed what they thought! That's good enough for me. If Obama doesn't get to be a dictator, someone from the other party might also try if this bull**** isn't stopped. Wonder how the Dems would feel then?

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, CJ.

    Millions of voters in the midterms showed what they thought! That's good enough for me. If Obama doesn't get to be a dictator, someone from the other party might also try if this bull**** isn't stopped. Wonder how the Dems would feel then?

    That's what BO was looking to avoid. Btw Avon couldn't leave a message.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, CJ.

    Millions of voters in the midterms showed what they thought! That's good enough for me. If Obama doesn't get to be a dictator, someone from the other party might also try if this bull**** isn't stopped. Wonder how the Dems would feel then?
    Good afternoon Lady P.

    The "your guy did it so my guy can do it" argument also amuses/befuddles me. If something is wrong and should be stopped, all right thinking people should be on board, regardless of who's leading at any given time. Illegality shouldn't be nuanced by ideology.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Lawsuit won't be going anywhere, as Congress has no standing in the case. Obamacare will be here until at least 2016. There are only 2 ways that the GOP can kill Obamacare.....

    1) Refuse to fund it, via the power of the purse, and when Obama vetoes the legislation, get 2/3 vote in each chamber to override the veto.

    2) Win the presidency, and keep both chambers of Congress in 2016, and then eliminate the filibuster entirely at that time.
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