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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Historically, the SCOTUS can overturn an executive action if it's unclear the EO is supported by law and the Congress is vehemently against it.

    In addition, Congress can pass legislation that overrides it, or a budget that excludes the EO funding, though the President can veto it .. quite the can of worms.

    But, a new sitting President can issue an EO to rescind a previous sitting President's EO.

    That's right, if a Republican is elected in 2016, let's say, he can immediately rescind Obamnesty with an EO of his own!

    Obamnesty is really only a public relations manipulation of illegal aliens designed to move them along to Democratic Party membership, at quite the risk to these illegal aliens, and to throw down the gauntlet centerpiece of the 2016 Presidential election to begin mustering the Democratic Party troops to prepare for battle.

    It has no real teeth.

    His action point #3 doesn't grant anything permanent -- he's was careful to say this is all "temporary" -- so his making of an amnesty list of those whom the INS agents can't deport, that list can be torn up by his successor at will.

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    Of course they could. 10 bucks says there's no way they will.


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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Congrats. Does this mean its going to go anywhere and make it less of a stunt simply because he is a liberal?


    See you keep on going back to the constitution. It was held up as constitutional. Using this rhetoric just proves its another stunt.

    Sure, because he is one of the top Constitutional Attorneys in the Country. Uhm, that's active before the SCOTUS too.

    Moreover he was one who the left would look to go to take on Repubs. So definitely a difference than being represented from other attorneys from the Right or alleged Independent status.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Is it better than the Senate jacuzzi though?
    Well the Senate one does have lots of overweight guys in their sixties sporting man boobs so I guess it depends on your personal preference.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I always find it interesting when matters of legal/constitutional principle are simply reduced to political name calling and accusations of "another stunt".

    Seems to me, most Americans would like to have the courts rule on the extent of a President's executive authority/ability to ignore law when a President's very oath of office has him declaring to uphold the laws of the republic.

    Personally, I think courts are a good, dispassionate, forum for hashing out these differences.
    It is a stunt though. I wonder if a court would even rule they have standing. Usually there has to be evidence that the plaintiff was harmed in some way.


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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Well the Senate one does have lots of overweight guys in their sixties sporting man boobs so I guess it depends on your personal preference.
    Yeah but if they all get to use the WH sauna, then that'll just be filled with the same folks.


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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, this time it is the Liberal Constitutional Lawyer and Professor Jonathon Turley.

    Who has called for BO's overreach to be put in check.....and balanced government.

    So not so much like the last two at all.....huh?
    I suspect that Turley is in this for the money. The other issue that could stop this suit dead in its tracks is starting in Jan, this is a new congress who did not vote against the ACA.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course they could. 10 bucks says there's no way they will.
    And the gauntlets keep dropping.

    Indeed, that's Obamnesty's subtextual commandment: gird for battle!
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    And the gauntlets keep dropping.

    Indeed, that's Obamnesty's subtextual commandment: gird for battle!
    Considering that there's basically no difference between the two major parties....they won't. They'll just have Fox start spinning the story that it was all their idea in the first place so they can take credit.


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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Sure, because he is one of the top Constitutional Attorneys in the Country. Uhm, that's active before the SCOTUS too.

    Moreover he was one who the left would look to go to take on Repubs. So definitely a difference than being represented from other attorneys from the Right or alleged Independent status.
    Last lawyer couldnt do ****. Its gonna be funny when this one cant find anything. Its typical the GOP will yell and scream about this for a week, then it will slowly, just like the last "lawsuit" fade away.


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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It is a stunt though. I wonder if a court would even rule they have standing. Usually there has to be evidence that the plaintiff was harmed in some way.
    Regardless of your political leanings, don't you want to ensure that your President doesn't overstep the bounds of what a single person should be able to do vis-a-vis the legal/justice system in your country?
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