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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    If they have to use a states services.....then grievances can be shown. Also the Fed will more than likely have to reimburse. Which I'll bet they would do, rather than let it get to SCOTUS.
    But they're very likely already using state services. Thus, no harm done. Still, you are correct in that the remedy here would be to throw more money at the states to compensate accordingly.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning Rocket - I'm missing your point. You don't believe the House has standing to launch such a lawsuit?
    I'll take that on...

    No. For starters, it's a divided House. Only House Republicans are bringing about the suit, not House Democrats or even the Senate.

    Second, the SCOTUS has already ruled that Congress has other remedies to settle their "balance of power" and "Executive over-reach" claims against a sitting President. Unless the President has done something criminal, it's highly unlikely anything will come of this lawsuit.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well stated hay....
    Thank you for saying that. After I posted I recalled having debated such ideas a very long time ago in college. I debated for two years on the college team and here was the topic for one of the years

    RESOLVED: That executive control of United States foreign policy should be significantly curtailed.

    The year was 1968/69. 45 years ago in a different America and people were even then concerned about growing presidential power that needed to be curtailed.

    Now just imagine how beyond even that year the power of the Executive Branch has been expanded and you can really see a problem here.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for saying that. After I posted I recalled having debated such ideas a very long time ago in college. I debated for two years on the college team and here was the topic for one of the years

    RESOLVED: That executive control of United States foreign policy should be significantly curtailed.

    The year was 1968/69. 45 years ago in a different America and people were even then concerned about growing presidential power that needed to be curtailed.

    Now just imagine how beyond even that year the power of the Executive Branch has been expanded and you can really see a problem here.
    Oh yeah, no doubt...Not much looks the same today as it did 40+ years ago....But that's progress right?
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But they're very likely already using state services. Thus, no harm done. Still, you are correct in that the remedy here would be to throw more money at the states to compensate accordingly.
    I am sure some are..... what about those that just came here with the surge? Was it winter when they surged here? Do homeless people need shelter? Heat? Food and clothing? Medical attention.

    Don't forget State services would also be services pertaining to Law. As in should they break any others.

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'll take that on...

    No. For starters, it's a divided House. Only House Republicans are bringing about the suit, not House Democrats or even the Senate.

    Second, the SCOTUS has already ruled that Congress has other remedies to settle their "balance of power" and "Executive over-reach" claims against a sitting President. Unless the President has done something criminal, it's highly unlikely anything will come of this lawsuit.
    Thanks for your input, and you may be right. We'll see if a court tosses the lawsuit.

    Here in Canada, the Supreme Court is often asked by the government to provide advice on the legality of executive/legislative action. I find it to be a reasonable approach to complicated constitutional issues, even if I don't always agree with the Supreme Court's rulings. I find it odd that, in America, a minor dispute about jurisdiction or Congress's power to legislate and fund can only be settled with the heavy hammer of impeachment.

    I would also note that the Supreme Court did actually take up and rule on the issue of Obama's declaration that the Senate was in recess and he could make appointments to the LRB, as one example where dispute between the two branches went the court route.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh yeah, no doubt...Not much looks the same today as it did 40+ years ago....But that's progress right?
    Well it is movement ----- as to progress... not so sure.
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I posted this once, now let's see if you read it this time...



    Ultimately we will have to wait to see what the courts say, but just as you believe that he is within his power, and broke no law, I believe he has....
    So are you equally all up in arms at his refusal to prosecute marijuana distribution in states like CA and CO?

    Or is your poutrage selective?
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    Re: House GOP File Lawsuit Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    So are you equally all up in arms at his refusal to prosecute marijuana distribution in states like CA and CO?

    Or is your poutrage selective?
    So it's all or nothing with you eh? Dope has nothing to do with this.
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