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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe you should ask Obama himself what is illegal about it....

    "Consider his self-incriminating statements on immigration and executive powers. A year ago, when asked if he had the authority to end deportations of illegal aliens he said, “Actually, I don’t.” Three years earlier, when pressed as to why he could not act on his own on immigration he said, “The notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true.”

    Well, now the president says it is true -- he can alter the laws unilaterally. Why the metamorphosis? What changed? The law and the Constitution are still the same. Which leaves Obama. When it comes to the truth, inconvenient or otherwise, he is a chameleon like no other politician. He never hesitates to contradict himself, conjuring a new breadth of hypocrisy."

    Three things that are illegal about Obama's immigration plan | Fox News
    Has the EO stopped deportations? It hasn't.
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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Even better: you show us where he DOES have the power to change the law, via executive order.
    He's not changing the law. As far as I can tell he's acting completely within his statutory authority or powers granted to him Constitutionally as head of
    the executive branch.
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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Although Obama is pushing the envelope, I don't see any lawsuit being successful.
    That doesn't mean his actions are legal.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    He's not changing the law. As far as I can tell he's acting completely within statutory authority he already has or granted to him Constitutionally as head of
    the executive branch.
    Of course he's changing the law.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Amnesty supporter.......

    Out of context debater.
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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's their job, not the president's job.
    Seems he is doing his job. Just like these guys:



    Pres. Dwight Eisenhower:
    1956

    By executive order, circumvented immigration quotas to allow 900 orphans to join their adoptive families in the U.S.

    1956-1958

    By executive order, allowed 31,000 Hungarian anti-Soviet insurgents to emigrate.

    1959-72

    By executive order, allowed 600,000 Cubans fleeing Castro to emigrate. [PDF]

    Pres. Gerald Ford:
    1975

    By executive order, allowed 360,000 refugees, mostly from from Vietnam, to emigrate.

    1976

    By executive order, allowed 14,000 Lebanese nationals to emigrate.

    Pres. Ronald Reagan:
    1981

    By executive order, allowed 7,000 Polish anti-Communists to emigrate.

    1982

    Allowed 15,000-plus Ethiopians to emigrate.

    1987

    By executive order, rescinded deportation of 200,000 Nicaraguans.

    1987

    By executive order, deferred deportation of undocumented children of 100,000 families. [JSTOR]

    George H.W. Bush:
    1989

    By executive order, deferred deportations of Chinese students.

    1989

    By executive order, reversed visa denials of 7,000 Soviets, Indochinese.

    1990

    By executive order, deferred deporations of previously amnestied citizens’ 1.5 million spouses and children.

    1991

    By executive order, deferred deportation of 2,000 Gulf War evacuees.

    1992

    By executive order, deferred deportations of 190,000 El Salvadorans.

    George W. Bush:
    2002

    By executive order, expedited naturalization for green-card holders who joined military.

    2005

    By executive order, deferred deportation of students affected by Hurricane Katrina.

    2006

    By executive order, enabled 1,500 Cuban physicians to seek asylum at US embassies.

    2007

    By executive order, deferred deportation of 3,600 Liberians.
    So Obama is putting out an executive order, identical in value to the 18 or so pushed by Republican presidents. Were those EOs illegal? As I said, I WILL WAIT FOR THE LAWSUITS.
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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Black Activists Speak Out against Obama Amnesty*Agenda - Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog - A Conservative Blog

    I love this. Here's where libs pile on top of conservative blacks calling them Uncle Toms or other things. Watch.
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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Black Activists Speak Out against Obama Amnesty*Agenda - Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog - A Conservative Blog

    I love this. Here's where libs pile on top of conservative blacks calling them Uncle Toms or other things. Watch.
    Why is race so important to Republicans?
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    Re: Obama acts on immigration, announcing decision to defer deportations of 4 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So, they're forced to do their job if they don't like what the president is doing? The humanity. Maybe that was Obama's goal all along. If I was him, the second step would be to get to write a bill - veto it if it doesn't include any Democrat demands and when it comes back as a bipartisan bill, sign it into law.
    Whatever. Obama has no reason to expect republicant congress critters to do his bidding especially after losing a demorat majority in first the House and now the Senate as well.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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