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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This issue is dead until the next Congress in sworn in. Will Obama Veto the legislation or sign it?

    WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats on Tuesday defeated a bill, 59 to 41, that would have approved the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, rebuffing a Democratic colleague, Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, who had hoped to muscle the legislation through in advance of her uphill runoff election fight back home.

    Forty Democrats and Angus King, independent of Maine, voted against the bill, with just 14 Democrats joining all 45 Republicans in support of the oil pipeline.

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    Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline
    thats not really a defeat,its more of didnt recieve a filibuster proof majority or veto proof majority,or even a reid proof majority.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Senate Repubs give up something?
    They filibustered an NSA bill today 42-58 that most Libertarians want.
    McConnell said it went too far and Paul said it didn't go far enough.
    Just more of the clown show we're about to see open in January .

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    Whatever the senate repubs would give up in return would be nixed by the repubs in the house.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    thats not really a defeat,its more of didnt recieve a filibuster proof majority or veto proof majority,or even a reid proof majority.
    And it will be vetoed in the new year .
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    They voted no, because they are against the pipeline. Just because they were voted out, that doesn't mean their political life is over. What would you do in that situation?
    I know you didn't ask me, but if I'm on my way out and my constituents wanted something I was against I would abstain.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    And incoming Sen. Grassley promised to further expand the "nuclear option" to legislation.
    The same GOPs who threatened the original "nuclear option" when Bush was reigning king.
    When Dems backed off and gave him his judges as well as his cabinet, something McConnell refused to do for Obama .

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    And I hope they do. I pray that they do. Kill that ****ing disastrous crap called the filibuster. Let the Republicans lead the legislature as they have won. Let the country move in the direction that they wish to lead. If the people don't like it, they will change leadership. We don't need mitigating BS rules that, IMO, further separate the government's representation of it's people.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Senators are not elected for 5.75 years.
    This is just one of the many new Nixon cards being played at the federal and state levels.
    An excellent messaging game that GOPs have bought into .
    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    I know you didn't ask me, but if I'm on my way out and my constituents wanted something I was against I would abstain.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And incoming Sen. Grassley promised to further expand the "nuclear option" to legislation.
    The same GOPs who threatened the original "nuclear option" when Bush was reigning king.
    When Dems backed off and gave him his judges as well as his cabinet, something McConnell refused to do for Obama .
    It matters not to me. Politicians are hypocrites? Absolutely. I still want that non-law non-constitutional "rule" killed. Then let people get the leadership they vote for.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Actually I did bring up Kennedy but not his hospitalization.
    Thank you for adding Byrd's name.
    We still have GOP posters on here lying that Dems had a filibuster-proof Senate for two years.
    Go figure .

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well you left out that also during that time when the dems were supposed to have had a "filibuster proof majority" Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd were hospitalized and their vote was basically vacated.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And it will be vetoed in the new year .
    If Obama vetoes it, then Obama and Democrats can deal with the 60% of Americans (according to the latest USA Today Poll) that want to see it passed.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    I know you didn't ask me, but if I'm on my way out and my constituents wanted something I was against I would abstain.
    Okay, that would show you have no principals and your opponents will use it against you in the future.


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