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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    What tax breaks does the oil industry get that other industries do not?
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the senate writes its own rules, if republicans wish to lower it down to 51 votes needed to pass legislation, they can do it when they enter office.
    And I hope they do. I pray that they do. Kill that ****ing disastrous crap called the filibuster. Let the Republicans lead the legislature as they have won. Let the country move in the direction that they wish to lead. If the people don't like it, they will change leadership. We don't need mitigating BS rules that, IMO, further separate the government's representation of it's people.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A tax credit given to a very large portion of the population.

    But not to a business, thus not very relevant to "picking winners and losers" in this context.
    the government is still picking people to give credits to...

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I don't know, why do we give billions to the oil industry?
    Because the gov't gets more per gallon than the oil companies do.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    That would be the same method the GOP used the last four years to filibuster the Democrats, even on GOP ideas.
    Not to mention the months Franken was refused his seat in 2009 and when Kennedy's seat was lost to Brown in the 2009 term.
    Filibusters are a two-sided coin .
    Well you left out that also during that time when the dems were supposed to have had a "filibuster proof majority" Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd were hospitalized and their vote was basically vacated.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I assume you are referring to Obama Care? If so the republicans originally gave it that name to deride it. It's really the PPACA (Patient Protection Afforable Care Act).

    If some of the states it would pass through don't want it and the Native American lands it would pass through don't want it and were never conferred with than I say it should be dead in the water. Not that many permanent jobs and it will help Canada out a lot more than the US at the risk of polluting our land.
    No I was referring to if you put an attractive sounding name on a piece of legislation, it makes it hard for people to vote against it--Like No Child Left Behind.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This isn't good for Landrieu.
    She was already behind by double digits. She's toast. Why the hell do dems do this? Why run as a republican light? Who from the right would vote for a republican light when they can have a real republican? It's the stupidest campaign though process ever.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Why do you guys insist on providing biased disinformation from sources that are even more biased than you? From your source...

    What is a fossil fuel subsidy?

    A fossil fuel subsidy is any government action that lowers the cost of fossil fuel energy production, raises the price received by energy producers or lowers the price paid by energy consumers. There are a lot of activities under this simple definition—tax breaks and giveaways, but also loans at favorable rates, price controls, purchase requirements and a whole lot of other things.
    What this basically means is that any tax break given to any industry, like accelerated depreciation for example, qualifies as a "fossil fuel subsidy". This is a totally dishonest way to characterize the industry. If they are getting serious breaks that others are not then lets see it but if this is all you have to offer then your doing nothing more than peddling false information.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Subsidy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's a common practice far beyond the oil industry.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Ok folks who support the Keystone... Here's where I ask why. Why do you support the keystone pipeline? What is the reason(s)?

    I mean this rabid support can't be for the whole 50 full time jobs it provides after its constructed.
    It can't be for the gas prices because it won't effect the prices at the pump at all.

    Why do you want a pipeline constructed that puts our land at risk so that a Canadian oil company can pipe their oil across our land so that they can sell it to other countries? Where in all this does your support foster?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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