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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    When the GOP wins, they want to limit DEM terms to 3/4 of the last year--no new business.
    They're doing the same thing here in Illinois since we have a new governor--just do nothing on minimum wage until the new governor takes over .

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    They voted no, because they are against the pipeline. Just because they were voted out, that doesn't mean their political life is over. What would you do in that situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    If they named it the Obama Pipeline, it would have passed.
    I assume you are referring to Obama Care? If so the republicans originally gave it that name to deride it. It's really the PPACA (Patient Protection Afforable Care Act).

    If some of the states it would pass through don't want it and the Native American lands it would pass through don't want it and were never conferred with than I say it should be dead in the water. Not that many permanent jobs and it will help Canada out a lot more than the US at the risk of polluting our land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We don't give $billions, they just don't pay $billions.
    Bull****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Good evening polgara, you can address me as Pete, that's my real name.
    Mary Landrieu doesn't have a chance of keeping her seat, she is down by 21% in the polls.
    Since no one likes to lose without a fight, I can understand her efforts to try and keep her job by trying to convince others to help her. She seems feisty enough to do that, and I commend her for trying! She was a hold-out on voting "yes" on Obamacare, and she did get millions of dollars for Louisiana before she voted "yes", if I recall correctly. Give credit where it's due! Quid pro quo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The bigger question is: why do you still believe that?
    Because it's true.

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    What difference does it make when the president vetos it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This isn't good for Landrieu.
    If it's only about saving her job she can go pound sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    They voted no, because they are against the pipeline. Just because they were voted out, that doesn't mean their political life is over. What would you do in that situation?
    Probably the same thing, if it were a personal conviction. We all face those moments....

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here you go:
    Roll Call Vote
    Thank You, it is as I thought. Only 4 more yea votes. Not even close to 67. I appreciate it. Keystone, I would like it but it isn't all that important to me. It is how a veto might affect President Obama that I am most interested in. But with all the hoopla I think even a veto wouldn't have repercussion beyond a month and probably wouldn't move his approval rating more than a point or two if that. Unless some of the unions really become upset. But who knows, the world is a mess and this may just be another item to stack upon what has gone wrong over the last year. But as my favorite expression goes, who knows, time will tell.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Other than the depletion allowance that source provided nothing so I guess your whole beef is with the depletion allowance?

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