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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Preferential tax breaks are still picking winners and losers.
    It's all through our country, not just Big Oil. It goes all the way to the county level.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Too bad there isn't a loyal opposition on the other side willing to deal as you've mentioned.
    Hasn't been since the night Obama was elected, as you well know .

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    stupid hill to die on. could have traded it for wind farm funding, or used it as a bargaining chip for something else.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This issue is dead until the next Congress in sworn in. Will Obama Veto the legislation or sign it?

    WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats on Tuesday defeated a bill, 59 to 41, that would have approved the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, rebuffing a Democratic colleague, Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, who had hoped to muscle the legislation through in advance of her uphill runoff election fight back home.

    Forty Democrats and Angus King, independent of Maine, voted against the bill, with just 14 Democrats joining all 45 Republicans in support of the oil pipeline.

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    Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline
    I would like to know the names of the 14 Democrats who support it. I would like to compare the names to see if the new incoming Republican Senators would change that Nay to Yea. Now I am sure it will pass next year, the question in my mind is the number 67 as I think the President will veto it. Now the public seems for it:

    Continued Support for Keystone XL Pipeline | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what is the earned income tax credit?
    The earned income tax credit (EITC), first proposed in the early 1970s, was signed by President Ford. It was later substantially expanded by President Reagan, who deemed it “the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job creation measure to come out of Congress” (Snyder 1995).

    The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit: History, Purpose, Goals, and Effectiveness | Economic Policy Institute


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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    And therein lies the doublespeak problem .
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    This isn't good for Landrieu.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wind farm funding isn't hurting for cash. The wind industry only exists because of green welfare. How about we support an industry that can actually stand on it's own feet? What's wrong with that?
    We already subsidize the oil industry. My point was that it was dumb to nix the pipeline, as it could be used as a bargaining chip. Do you need for me to clarify further?

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Let's see how many of those 24 Republicans up for reelection in 2016 get targeted, especially those like Kirk from my state .

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I would like to know the names of the 14 Democrats who support it. I would like to compare the names to see if the new incoming Republican Senators would change that Nay to Yea. Now I am sure it will pass next year, the question in my mind is the number 67 as I think the President will veto it. Now the public seems for it:

    Continued Support for Keystone XL Pipeline | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    We already subsidize the oil industry. My point was that it was dumb to nix the pipeline, as it could be used as a bargaining chip. Do you need for me to clarify further?
    I see your point. Very good.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And therein lies the doublespeak problem .
    It's not double speak, that's how you encourage some critical businesses. Do you remember when shell spent a $5 billion drilling in northern Alaska looking for oil, only to be denied later the rights to go to production?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...rt-ruling.html

    So you think they should go ahead and take it up the ass right? Now you know why they get breaks.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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