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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Preferential tax breaks are still picking winners and losers.
    it isn't preferential. they are the same tax breaks that all mining industries are allowed to have.

    HUFBAUER: Debunking the big-oil subsidy myth - Washington Times
    please read and understand what is going on and why this whole oil subsidy thing that you and others keep spouting is wrong.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I responded to that already. And I think that would make for an interesting argument that probably has some validity. But that isn't the argument being used to stop the pipeline. The left really couldn't use that argument anyway without looking like total hypocrites. They are advocates of state power, not property rights.


    What? Who are advocates for state power? You must be kidding! The states have too much power as it is. Property rights are primary!

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The real comedy is that the GOPs don't recognize that the judge's decision that is still out in Nebraska is over eminent domain.
    Brought to the court by local landowners in Nebraska.
    This KXL exercise is just an end-run around a court decision that has yet to be made.
    And disingenuous or knowledge-challenged GOPs continue to spout that eminent domain is not what is being argued .


    ....and don't forget the treaty rights of the Sioux Nation. They will not allow this pipeline on their lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    ....and don't forget the treaty rights of the Sioux Nation. They will not allow this pipeline on their lands.
    We'll just bring back the horse cavalry if they don't like it.

    Juanita, you have a source ? Usually a tribe makes money any time an utility easement crosses their sovereign reservation.

    Is the pipe line going to be a utility ?

    Sure it just isn't the small minority of trouble makers known as the AIM ?

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    We'll just bring back the horse cavalry if they don't like it.

    Juanita, you have a source ? Usually a tribe makes money any time an utility easement crosses their sovereign reservation.

    Is the pipe line going to be a utility ?

    Sure it just isn't the small minority of trouble makers known as the AIM ?


    No, tribal leaders have been all over the news all day! I didn't realize that AIM still existed, must be a new generation. They seem pretty serious in their opposition to the pipeline tho.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    It's not a meaningful defeat if the next congress can simply revive the issue again. Nothing is ever truly left to rest, especially not as it concerns big oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    No, tribal leaders have been all over the news all day! I didn't realize that AIM still existed, must be a new generation. They seem pretty serious in their opposition to the pipeline tho.
    I'll check it out.

    Thanks Juanita for mentioning it.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I'll check it out.

    Thanks Juanita for mentioning it.


    You're welcome. Very interesting turn of events.

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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
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    But will these Democrats vote AYE again next year
    Donnelly IN
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    McCaskill Mo
    Tester MT
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    I'm going to guess that they all will vote in favor of it when the GOP brings it back up for a vote in the next session. The only one I think has the potential for a vote change is Warner but how do you articulate voting in favor of something in November and then all of a sudden be against it a few months later. That would play incessantly on his next opponent's ads.
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    Re: Senate Narrowly Defeats Keystone XL Pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm going to guess that they all will vote in favor of it when the GOP brings it back up for a vote in the next session. The only one I think has the potential for a vote change is Warner but how do yoshou articulate voting in favor of something in November and then all of a sudden be against it a few months later. That would play incessantly on his next opponent's ads.
    I agree that Warner is a question mark, but he doesn't have to explain. He was just re-elected and has a new 6 years, the first five he can do whatever he wants as most Americans have very short memories. The other 5 are probably fairly firm
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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