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Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats [W:42]

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So this is happening...

Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats | ZDNet

The Riverfront Times reported that the St. Louis, Missouri KKK group passed out pamphlets starting, "Attention: To the terrorists masquerading as "peaceful protesters"!"
The announcement stated further, "We will use lethal force as provided under Missouri law to defend ourselves."
KKK leader Frank Ancona went on MCNBC Wednesday to back up the threat and claim support from Ferguson locals; the head of Missouri's KKK told media that his organization's threats to protesters had boosted KKK recruitment.
The Missouri group behind the threats -- Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan -- is listed as an active hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center


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And here is my reaction...


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Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

I so want to like and approve of this, as there is no group I like seeing bad things happen to more than the KKK. But I can't do it. DDoS, hacking, exposing people who have commiuted no crime, that is simply not acceptable behavior, no matter who the target is.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

KKK > so called "Anonymous"
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

I so want to like and approve of this, as there is no group I like seeing bad things happen to more than the KKK. But I can't do it. DDoS, hacking, exposing people who have commiuted no crime, that is simply not acceptable behavior, no matter who the target is.



If the desired end is to get rid of the KKK, than I believe that in this case the end deserves the means.

Sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do.

No one forced those people to join the KKK.

If belonging to the KKK causes them some problems I have zero sympathy for them.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

This is so funny.
A Fake KKK account is taken over by a Fake Anonymous impersonator. :doh

Even more funny is that there are those caught up in the nonsense and think it is real.
 
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Omg, some kid guessed their password and now he's l33tH4xx0r. Spamming twitter and all that. Tru h4x l0l.

I could have guessed their password too. It's clearly: 1234killalltheniggers
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

If the desired end is to get rid of the KKK, than I believe that in this case the end deserves the means.

Sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do.

No one forced those people to join the KKK.

If belonging to the KKK causes them some problems I have zero sympathy for them.

I do partially agree with you but I have to agree with Redress too.

But only because my position is only partially in agreement with both of you and partially in disagreement.

The truth is, everyone is fair game online. That's just reality. It doesn't matter if you are part of what group or where. But there is no "special target" that should be on your back for being part of any group or having any sort of info put online that can be stolen. The "target" is one everyone's back, regardless, what one should do is make sure it's as small as possible by not being stupid online.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

Omg, some kid guessed their password and now he's l33tH4xx0r. Spamming twitter and all that. Tru h4x l0l.

I could have guessed their password too. It's clearly: 1234killalltheniggers
Knowing what I do about the real Anonymous (those from 4chan), and not the usurpers of the movement.
Your comment would actually apply to Anonymous more than you probably will let on knowing.


The truth is, everyone is fair game online. That's just reality. It doesn't matter if you are part of what group or where. But there is no "special target" that should be on your back for being part of any group or having any sort of info put online that can be stolen. The "target" is one everyone's back, regardless, what one should do is make sure it's as small as possible by not being stupid online.
Spoken like a true Anonymous. lulz
 
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both anonymous's are save the world BS
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

I am more than ok with what anonymous has done here with the KKK. With a few exceptions, I am generally ok with most of the things anonymous does.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

I am more than ok with what anonymous has done here with the KKK. With a few exceptions, I am generally ok with most of the things anonymous does.
And as pointed out they didn't do anything to the KKK, as it wasn't the KKK's site and it wasn't anonymous. Duh!
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

Knowing what I do about the real Anonymous (those from 4chan), and not the usurpers of the movement.
Your comment would actually apply to Anonymous more than you probably will let on knowing.


Spoken like a true Anonymous. lulz

4chan is anonymous because of the nature of the message board, but they aren't "anonymous" as in, the hacking group that hacked the Turkish govt and all that. Though 4channers and 8channers may have a higher ratio of people visiting/being part of the community that actually know a thing or two about hacking than other communities.

And yes, as you said below, everyone can claim to be anonymous. There is no card carrying thing to prove you're a "member". That's the whole point. Also, I don't know what "usurping" is going on. This was the whole message of Anonymous, doesn't matter what people do, they can claim to be part of it.

That being said, maybe that's Anonymous speech, but it's also common sense coming from a guy who works in the field of programming.


Also, I know that it wasn't any serious hackign attempt because
a) it's twitter. Who cares about your twitter? nobody.
b) hacking usually takes time. nobody would be interesting in hacking such a low-value high-PR target. There are no "bragging rights" to be found here.

That's why it was a kid or some kids who introduced passwords at random to see what works. And something worked.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

And as pointed out they didn't do anything to the KKK, as it wasn't the KKK's site and it wasn't anonymous. Duh!

That does not seem to be the general consensus. There seems to be plenty of reporting that anonymous did seize KKK twitter accounts and posted activity of their intentions with them. CNN, ZDNet, The Guardian, BBC, etc. Take your pick.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

That does not seem to be the general consensus.

There seems to be plenty of reporting that anonymous did seize KKK twitter accounts and posted activity of their intentions with them. CNN, ZDNet, The Guardian, BBC, etc. Take your pick.
:doh
The general consensus? What general consensus?

iLOL
You don't think reporters get things wrong?

Just because an account contains the letter KKK, doesn't mean it belongs to the KKK.

And just because someone identifies as being anonymous doesn't make them part of Anonymous.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

I so want to like and approve of this, as there is no group I like seeing bad things happen to more than the KKK. But I can't do it. DDoS, hacking, exposing people who have commiuted no crime, that is simply not acceptable behavior, no matter who the target is.

Leave it to the ****ers in anonymous to actually make me think the KKK of all people are getting a raw deal. I loved their ridiculous little me basically trying to say they aren't doing what they're doing while acknowledging that's exactly what they're doing.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

That does not seem to be the general consensus. There seems to be plenty of reporting that anonymous did seize KKK twitter accounts and posted activity of their intentions with them. CNN, ZDNet, The Guardian, BBC, etc. Take your pick.

Considering all those publications thought 4chan was a hacker in the celebrity nude photo scandals, as in, a person that is a hacker, they carry little weight in such matters.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

:doh
The general consensus? What general consensus?

iLOL
You don't think reporters get things wrong?

Just because an account contains the letter KKK, doesn't mean it belongs to the KKK.

And just because someone identifies as being anonymous doesn't make them part of Anonymous.

And how would you know all this? Best I can tell you have not provided much.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

Considering all those publications thought 4chan was a hacker in the celebrity nude photo scandals, as in, a person that is a hacker, they carry little weight in such matters.

Perhaps not, you could be right. But the reporting is what we have to go on, and in this case given what is reported it would make sense for anonymous to go after the KKK (as they have done to many other groups they target.)
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

4chan is anonymous because of the nature of the message board, but they aren't "anonymous" as in, the hacking group that hacked the Turkish govt and all that. Though 4channers and 8channers may have a higher ratio of people visiting/being part of the community that actually know a thing or two about hacking than other communities.

And yes, as you said below, everyone can claim to be anonymous. There is no card carrying thing to prove you're a "member". That's the whole point. Also, I don't know what "usurping" is going on. This was the whole message of Anonymous, doesn't matter what people do, they can claim to be part of it.

That being said, maybe that's Anonymous speech, but it's also common sense coming from a guy who works in the field of programming.


Also, I know that it wasn't any serious hackign attempt because
a) it's twitter. Who cares about your twitter? nobody.
b) hacking usually takes time. nobody would be interesting in hacking such a low-value high-PR target. There are no "bragging rights" to be found here.

That's why it was a kid or some kids who introduced passwords at random to see what works. And something worked.
I do not in "essence" disagree, the nature of the message board allowed anonymous entries as well.

But 4chan members were still the originators of Anonymous as a group, and these actions are not attributable to them. (the originators)

Others are just usurpers of the title and are nothing but (little "a") anonymous, as they are not the originators, regardless of the seriousness of their hacking, such as those you mentioned.

To the current actions, the anonymous in ref here, foments discord against Ferguson and was identified as being from Pakistan and well funded.
And because of funding and 24/7 activity, speculation abounds as to whether or not it is a non-US Gov entity.


So while anyone can be anonymous, not everyone can be Anonymous. Which is the point I was making.
The group/person in question "OpFerguson" while it is anonymous to most folks, it is fake Anonymous.
Which may explain the non-serious hacking.
And the KKK site was previously revealed as not belonging to the KKK.


Lets put it this way.
Lets say a group using the moniker Anonymous presents itself as being against Iran developing/obtaining nukes and is going to us it's hacking prowess to disrupt everything Iranian it can until they give up the pursuit.
It then turns out that group is actually the CIA, I seriously doubt anybody would then say it was an actually representation of Anonymous.
 
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Interesting how the legs are much darker than the arms.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

Perhaps not, you could be right. But the reporting is what we have to go on, and in this case given what is reported it would make sense for anonymous to go after the KKK (as they have done to many other groups they target.)

Yes, but it's BS. I said why. It's a low priority target that yields nothing. It's puff. It's what a scrub would do.

They (I say they but it most likely 1 bored kid who skipped school) didn't hack twitter to get access to the account, they just "hacked" ( guessed password or obtained by some means) the pass of the KKK. That's it. It's scrub stuff.
The news is just being retarded.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

Yes, but it's BS. I said why. It's a low priority target that yields nothing. It's puff. It's what a scrub would do.

They (I say they but it most likely 1 bored kid who skipped school) didn't hack twitter to get access to the account, they just "hacked" ( guessed password or obtained by some means) the pass of the KKK. That's it. It's scrub stuff.
The news is just being retarded.

Yes, the actual hack is really weak. However, anything like this to put the KKK in a negative light is fine by me.
 
Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

:doh
The general consensus? What general consensus?

iLOL
You don't think reporters get things wrong?

Just because an account contains the letter KKK, doesn't mean it belongs to the KKK.

And just because someone identifies as being anonymous doesn't make them part of Anonymous.
And how would you know all this?
Because I have been an avid follower of the Ferguson crap.
The KKK account didn't belong to the KKK. I will try to find that info.


And a guy in Pakistan is behind the supposed Anonymous "OpFerguson" account.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...chael-brown-not-charged-9.html#post1063973162
 
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Hard to believe that a group named anonymous would worry about who gets credit for their actions.
 
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