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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Apparently a lot don't, see post on here all the time suggesting the limiting of free speech, not to mention other "rights".

    True, it's not a secret, if it was and accidentally leaked, the the left might actually know it.
    Reactions to free speech can be pretty cleanly divided into two categories:

    What the government does: we have heavy restrictions here based on the first amendment and for very good practical reasons.

    What society does: which there are very few restrictions and rightly so.

    What this means is if the government is suppressing speech, it's probably going to be unconstitutional and illegal. I think pretty much everyone agrees with this.

    If society reacts negatively, then in my view it's not necessarily a suppression of speech. For example if bob has a radio show and comes up with an opinion that enough people dislike and bobs funding ends up getting pulled as a result, it's not suppression as bob does not have a right to his platform in the first place. Bobs radio show is nice but he has no right to it, so by it being taken away he has lost no rights. He is still just as able to express his opinion as his mouth still functions.

    Now others view a negative societal reaction as a suppression of free speech. Honestly I am still trying to figure out why some would feel that way.

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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Frank Ancona , what kind of name is that ?

    Ancona isn't an American surname. It's sounds more like a Kenyan surname.

    It's obvious that the Klan is lowering their recruiting standards.

    Maybe it's social engineering ?

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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who doesn't know that?

    I don't believe that's a secret in the USA.
    Apparently you, as you seem gung ho about silencing speech you don't like.
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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Apparently you, as you seem gung ho about silencing speech you don't like.


    Generally, any speech that I don't like, I just ignore.

    The 1st Amendment guarantees free speech, it doesn't guarantee that anyone will be listening.




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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Generally, any speech that I don't like, I just ignore.

    The 1st Amendment guarantees free speech, it doesn't guarantee that anyone will be listening.




    " The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
    Yeah, which is obviously why you felt the need to post about it, because you ignore it...
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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, which is obviously why you felt the need to post about it, because you ignore it...


    I replied to your comment about free speech and that's it.

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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I replied to your comment about free speech and that's it.
    My comment? You sure?
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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    My comment? You sure?


    In this world where quantum mechanics and an infinite number of possible universes make anything possible? No.

    It could have been someone posing as you on this website.

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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Reactions to free speech can be pretty cleanly divided into two categories:

    What the government does: we have heavy restrictions here based on the first amendment and for very good practical reasons.

    What society does: which there are very few restrictions and rightly so.

    What this means is if the government is suppressing speech, it's probably going to be unconstitutional and illegal. I think pretty much everyone agrees with this.

    If society reacts negatively, then in my view it's not necessarily a suppression of speech. For example if bob has a radio show and comes up with an opinion that enough people dislike and bobs funding ends up getting pulled as a result, it's not suppression as bob does not have a right to his platform in the first place. Bobs radio show is nice but he has no right to it, so by it being taken away he has lost no rights. He is still just as able to express his opinion as his mouth still functions.

    Now others view a negative societal reaction as a suppression of free speech. Honestly I am still trying to figure out why some would feel that way.
    Free speech is a civil right. A citizen can violate my civil rights just like the government can.
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    Re: Anonymous seizes Ku Klux Klan Twitter account over Ferguson threats

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Free speech is a civil right. A citizen can violate my civil rights just like the government can.
    And if someone tapes your mouth shut that civil right is violated

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