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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    That's not antipathy.

    anĚtipĚaĚthy
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    a deep-seated feeling of dislike; aversion.
    "his fundamental antipathy to capitalism"




    No, because that's not really true either.
    Oh ffs, I feel like I'm arguing with X-Factor. I know what antipathy means (but thanks for copying and pasting the definition with the proper break in syllables and dipthongs or whatever), and the antipathy is expressed through the notion that legalization of ssm is a bad thing.

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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Oh ffs, I feel like I'm arguing with X-Factor. I know what antipathy means (but thanks for copying and pasting the definition with the proper break in syllables and dipthongs or whatever), and the antipathy is expressed through the notion that legalization of ssm is a bad thing.
    None of the examples you provided expressed that at all. Only that government has no place in marriage. Disagreeable, sure, but forgive me if I don't take that as antipathic and bigoted.

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    No. I just don't appreciate you making claims you can't properly back.

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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    None of the examples you provided expressed that at all. Only that government has no place in marriage. Disagreeable, sure, but forgive me if I don't take that as antipathic and bigoted.
    Which I could buy if the argument for the removal of government came up during any other discussion than ssm. But since they're inexorably connected I would have to be pants-crappingly retarded to think it didn't stem from an antipathy for ssm. When it comes up, it's often packaged as support for gays, under the pretext that without government "intrusion" they could marry any time they wanted. So I thank them for their support, and say that as ssm legalization is spreading that kind of support won't be necessary any longer. At that point they typically explode with some fantastic hyperbole, like, "You'll be sorry when the government comes to every door and throws you all into gas chambers!!!!" Lulz ensue.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    No. I just don't appreciate you making claims you can't properly back.
    Actually I did, but you think this is about you so you're not understanding what I'm saying.
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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Which I could buy if the argument for the removal of government came up during any other discussion than ssm. But since they're inexorably connected I would have to be pants-crappingly retarded to think it didn't stem from an antipathy for ssm. When it comes up, it's often packaged as support for gays, under the pretext that without government "intrusion" they could marry any time they wanted. So I thank them for their support, and say that as ssm legalization is spreading that kind of support won't be necessary any longer. At that point they typically explode with some fantastic hyperbole, like, "You'll be sorry when the government comes to every door and throws you all into gas chambers!!!!" Lulz ensue.
    1). That discussion doesn't just happen when the topic of SSM comes up.

    2). You're talking about two or three people on an internet forum. Not exactly representative of the whole movement.



    Actually I did, but you think this is about you so you're not understanding what I'm saying.
    I don't think it's about me. I made it clear that I don't think ending government involvement in marriage is viable or even desirable. So obviously you aren't talking about me. That doesn't change the fact that you claimed "Libertarians consistently show antipathy towards SSM" but cannot come up with any sort of legitimate backing.

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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    1). That discussion doesn't just happen when the topic of SSM comes up.
    Yes it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    2). You're talking about two or three people on an internet forum. Not exactly representative of the whole movement.

    I don't think it's about me. I made it clear that I don't think ending government involvement in marriage is viable or even desirable. So obviously you aren't talking about me. That doesn't change the fact that you claimed "Libertarians consistently show antipathy towards SSM" but cannot come up with any sort of legitimate backing.
    Correction: I said that every time someone does suggest that government be removed from marriage, it's a libertarian doing it. If you're asking me to cite specific posters I can be gigged for that because it's considered to be a call-out post. I've experienced this already.

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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes it does.
    Actually, no. But I'm going to stop arguing this point because it's nothing but a red herring and you know it.

    Correction: I said that every time someone does suggest that government be removed from marriage, it's a libertarian doing it.
    Correction of your correction: You did, in fact, say that Libertarians show consistent antipathy towards SSM. Need a reminder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So the sentiment I see coming from Libertarians is consistently one of antipathy toward ssm rather than the support you assign to them.
    You still have yet to back that claim up. You have provided nothing but red herrings and deflection. Frankly I'm growing tired of it. Show me where Libertarians are consistently antipathic towards SSM. No BS, no grasping at straws, no deflection, no red herrings. Solid backing for your claim. I'll wait.

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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Actually, no. But I'm going to stop arguing this point because it's nothing but a red herring and you know it.



    Correction of your correction: You did, in fact, say that Libertarians show consistent antipathy towards SSM. Need a reminder?



    You still have yet to back that claim up. You have provided nothing but red herrings and deflection. Frankly I'm growing tired of it. Show me where Libertarians are consistently antipathic towards SSM. No BS, no grasping at straws, no deflection, no red herrings. Solid backing for your claim. I'll wait.
    You've got tunnel vision. I clarified my statement eons ago. And I did back up my claim, and funny enough everything you said in response to the thread I linked to and the one you linked to both supported my position, which is that when somebody suggests that government be removed from marriage, it's a libertarian making the statement.

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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So anyone that isn't for gay marriage is a bigot? Is that your contention?
    Save an isolated few, yes.
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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You've got tunnel vision. I clarified my statement eons ago. And I did back up my claim, and funny enough everything you said in response to the thread I linked to and the one you linked to both supported my position, which is that when somebody suggests that government be removed from marriage, it's a libertarian making the statement.
    Oh good lord.

    Showing me a couple of Libertarians on an internet forum that want to get government out of marriage does not, in any way, prove that Libertarians are consistently antipathic towards SSM.
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    Re: Gay marriage issue now linked to Ohio senator

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Oh good lord.

    Showing me a couple of Libertarians on an internet forum that want to get government out of marriage does not, in any way, prove that Libertarians are consistently antipathic towards SSM.
    Never mind, we're just talking past each other.

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