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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

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    Kobie, I think you despise the COTUS because its a list of rights you CANT violate.

    That infuriates the left, the people who think COTUS means what it ought to mean. And to add insult to injury, its quite difficult to amend as well. You think it stands between you and utopia.

    The problem, is you cant force people to do things, and when that issue comes up it leads to unspeakable evil from your ideology. And they think its justified.
    So much ignorance in one post. Why is it that people who know the least about the constitution talk the most about it and profess their love of it the loudest? Pretty much all the rights listed in the constitution have limits. Free speech does not mean freedom to liable others. Freedom of religion does not mean you can practice human sacrifice. And so on.

    And why is it that those who know the least about how others think always try and tell those others what they think? They always get it wrong and look silly in the process.
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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    A law which violates the Constitution is invalid. Your side's abject hatred of the Constitution notwithstanding, the Constitution is the highest law of the land, and it trumps any lower law which contradicts it.
    Campaign financing isn't speech.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Campaign financing isn't speech.

    Talking about it, communicated by electronics all make it a rights issue....

    Oh wait, I somehow get the feeling the word "rights" has changed, as it does under any socialists, they support rights fully...for causes and issues THEY agree with.
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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Talking about it, communicated by electronics all make it a rights issue....

    Oh wait, I somehow get the feeling the word "rights" has changed, as it does under any socialists, they support rights fully...for causes and issues THEY agree with.
    So, you think libel, slander, incitement to violence, conspiracy to commit murder, etc, are all protected under the first amendment, right?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Campaign financing isn't speech.
    Perhaps not, but only as a matter of semantic twisting. Spending money for the purpose of getting a message out would probably fall more solidly under freedom of the press than freedom of speech. But really, the argument that you're trying to make is very weak, no matter what semantic games you try to play. Spending money and resources is part of putting out a message to the masses, and as such, it clearly falls under the intent and the letter of the First Amendment.
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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Perhaps not, but only as a matter of semantic twisting. Spending money for the purpose of getting a message out would probably fall more solidly under freedom of the press than freedom of speech. But really, the argument that you're trying to make is very weak, no matter what semantic games you try to play. Spending money and resources is part of putting out a message to the masses, and as such, it clearly falls under the intent and the letter of the First Amendment.
    But this wasn't a message to the masses. It was a hidden message to a political campaign that saves that campaign a lot of money.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, you think libel, slander, incitement to violence, conspiracy to commit murder, etc, are all protected under the first amendment, right?
    I do not think anyone has claimed that. The right to free speech does not include the right to unjustly harm others with it, any more than the right to keep and bear arms includes a right to unjustly commit robbery, assault, and/or murder. Your right to swing your fist ends where someone else's nose begins.
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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I do not think anyone has claimed that. The right to free speech does not include the right to unjustly harm others with it, any more than the right to keep and bear arms includes a right to unjustly commit robbery, assault, and/or murder. Your right to swing your fist ends where someone else's nose begins.
    Ok. And my right to illegally contribute to political campaigns?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post


    Washington (CNN) - Republicans and outside groups used anonymous Twitter accounts to share internal polling data ahead of the midterm elections, CNN has learned, a practice that raises questions about whether they violated campaign finance laws that prohibit coordination.

    The Twitter accounts were hidden in plain sight. The profiles were publicly available but meaningless without knowledge of how to find them and decode the information, according to a source with knowledge of the activities.

    The practice is the latest effort in the quest by political operatives to exploit the murky world of campaign finance laws at a time when limits on spending in politics are eroding and regulators are being defanged.

    The law says that outside groups, such as super PACs and non-profits, can spend freely on political causes as long as they don't coordinate their plans with campaigns. Sharing costly internal polls in private, for instance, could signal to the campaign committees where to focus precious time and resources.

    The groups behind the operation had a sense of humor about what they were doing. One Twitter account was named after Bruno Gianelli, a fictional character in The West Wing who pressed his colleagues to use ethically questionable "soft money" to fund campaigns.

    A typical tweet read: "CA-40/43-44/49-44/44-50/36-44/49-10/16/14-52-->49/476-10s." The source said posts like that -- which would look like gibberish to most people -- represented polling data for various House races.

    Posting the information on Twitter, which is technically public, could provide a convenient loophole to the law — or could run afoul of it.

    "It's a line that has not been defined. This is really on the cutting edge," said Paul S. Ryan, senior counsel at the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan organization focused on campaign finance issues. "It might not be legal. It's a cutting edge practice that, to my knowledge, the Federal Election Commission has never before addressed to explicitly determine its legality or permissibility."

    At least two outside groups and a Republican campaign committee had access to the information posted to the accounts, according to the source. They include American Crossroads, the super PAC founded by Karl Rove; American Action Network, a nonprofit advocacy group, and the National Republican Congressional Committee, which is the campaign arm for the House GOP.

    Accounts deleted

    The accounts that CNN reviewed were active in the months ahead of this month's election, which gave Republicans their largest majority in the House since World War II and control of the Senate. They were live until Nov. 3 but deleted minutes after CNN contacted the NRCC with questions.
    How the GOP used Twitter to stretch election laws - CNN.com


    I guess voter fraud is a real issue. If this actually goes anywhere this could be good ammo for us Dems to use in 2016. If it goes nowhere expect the Dems to use this same strategy. To me deleting the accounts is admission of guilt. If the GOP didn't do anything wrong then those accounts would still be active.
    I saw that 60 percent of the 226,838 positive comments on Obamacare's facebook page were from 100 users.
    Free speech in another murky world you referred to.

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    Re: How the GOP used Twitter to stretch laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ok. And my right to illegally contribute to political campaigns?
    Your right to contribute your own resources, to help get out a message with which you agree. Affirmed and protected by the First Amendment, and only “illegal” because of a corrupt government that refuses to obey the Constitution.
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