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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The shutdowns are not about pleasing the American people, but business partners. You'd think people would realize that already. The GOP doesn't give two ****s about its constituents.
    How in the hell is shutting off the federal dollar spigot supposed to be interpreted as pleasing business partners? I don't know one, not one, business owner that would want to have the federal dollar stop flowing.

    Seriously???
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    How in the hell is shutting off the federal dollar spigot supposed to be interpreted as pleasing business partners? I don't know one, not one, business owner that would want to have the federal dollar stop flowing.

    Seriously???
    Really? You can't figure it out?

    The Dems are still right of center so it's not like their policies are that big of a change, but still... they threaten the interests of big businesses. It's advantageous to shut down Congress to serve a few than to keep the spigots running and the nation functional.

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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I think that same "the public will be pissed at the GOP over a shutdown" argument was used about a year ago. Yet the voters punished the GOP for their obstruction by giving them total control of congress. Government shutdowns only send liberals into a frenzy because government is the center of their universe. Most rational people barely notice if the notice at all. And if Obama vetoes legislation passed by both houses of congress, why isn't he the one shutting down government?
    Because it's a rule in DC that right, wrong or indifferent, when the government shuts down, it's the Republicans fault.
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration



    In contrast, last time the GOP shut down the government:

    Poll: Major damage to GOP after shutdown, and broad dissatisfaction with government - The Washington Post



    Polls: Shutdown nightmare for Republicans - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com
    Poll shows Republicans taking blame for government shutdown - Los Angeles Times
    Boomerang! Poll Reveals GOP's Government Shutdown Bolstered Obamacare's Popularity By 20% - Forbes
    Poll: Government Shutdown Damages GOP - Business Insider

    I'm sure that this time, a government shutdown will be positive for the GOPs image. Flight attendants, PR appointees and HS students will support this and it will give the GOP an even bigger majority in 2016. Using the shutdown option will also bring in support from Independents. They seem to be in favor of such things.
    The only ones I've heard speak of a shutdown are lying demos.

    With that said, Congress holds the power of the purse. Deal with it.
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I think that same "the public will be pissed at the GOP over a shutdown" argument was used about a year ago. Yet the voters punished the GOP for their obstruction by giving them total control of congress. Government shutdowns only send liberals into a frenzy because government is the center of their universe. Most rational people barely notice if the notice at all. And if Obama vetoes legislation passed by both houses of congress, why isn't he the one shutting down government?
    Because it is Congress's job to produce bills that will become law. That includes being signed by the President or at least have the votes to override his veto. The Republicans have been unable to do that because they have forgotten how to govern. I expect the public will be fed up by 2016 and they will throw the bums out.

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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because it is Congress's job to produce bills that will become law. That includes being signed by the President or at least have the votes to override his veto. The Republicans have been unable to do that because they have forgotten how to govern.
    Well, no, they had no power in the Senate. Now they do, so their ability to govern will be tested from here forward. That said, the American people don't seem to unhappy with the job repubicans in congress have been doing. Their anger seems to be more directed at the incompetent in the White House.

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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    So some on the far right in the GOP are calling for a shutdown to get into a Mexican stand-off with Obama over amnesty and that is translated into being a foregone conclusion of it happening by some in the press and some here?


    Right...

    its time to cut foreign aid, including that sent to Mexico.

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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Well, no, they had no power in the Senate. Now they do, so their ability to govern will be tested from here forward. That said, the American people don't seem to unhappy with the job repubicans in congress have been doing. Their anger seems to be more directed at the incompetent in the White House.
    Right and when Obama vetos their poor excuses for legislation they will be back to the same. Inability to govern is not attractive to voters forever..

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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The GOP House has had more than enough time to work on immigration reform in their four years in power.
    They simply can't get 218 votes out of their caucus on this issue, even if they had all 435 seats.

    All they know is NO, going on perpetual vacation starting July 31st and politically calculating that NO action is good action .
    As long as a pro-illegal is in office No action is good action.Because action on the part of pro-illegals only ensures that the illegal immigration problem gets worse than what it is now.Amnesty/legalization for people here illegally encourages more people to come here illegally, not less.
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    its time to cut foreign aid, including that sent to Mexico.
    Actually Columbia gets the 2nd highest amount of U.S. aid, behind Israel.

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