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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Obama is not a conservative though, and the legeslation the conservatives want to enact has little chance surviving a veto unless the bills are within reason.
    Two things. One: the dems do not want to watch Obama veto bill after bill for the next two years. This will prove to the public the so-called do nothing congress wasn't because of the repubs. It will damage them greatly in the next elections and they know it. Two: The repubs don't have the senate majority enough to just ram a bunch of stuff through without compromise. The bills that reach the president's desk will have to be signed off on by at least some dems. That's the way the system was supposed to work, but Harry Reid had a different idea.

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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Obama is not a conservative though, and the legeslation the conservatives want to enact has little chance surviving a veto unless the bills are within reason.
    There is already legislation enacted for immigration. Neither Congress nor the president can override the other to make new laws or change old ones. The President must respect the law that is currently on the books. Not what law he or Congress might "want" to enact.
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How many of those 24 months did Democrats have 60 votes?
    Keeping in mind Al Franken and Ted Kennedy.
    And the unprecedented number of McConnell filibusters in that 2009 term alone, not to mention the 2011 and 2013 terms .
    Until Scott Brown was elected, but that isn't relevant to what I said either, Nimby.
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    I'll respond to your long and moderate response to me earlier later--after practice.
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    It's in Article One, where the Congress is given sole power to legislate and appropriate.
    The next time you speak with your Congressman, please ask him what the House is actually doing on legislation for IR.
    How about SMALL meeting between Boehner and Biden to get something down on paper to throw the President and his Latino constituency a bone?
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Two things. One: the dems do not want to watch Obama veto bill after bill for the next two years. This will prove to the public the so-called do nothing congress wasn't because of the repubs. It will damage them greatly in the next elections and they know it. Two: The repubs don't have the senate majority enough to just ram a bunch of stuff through without compromise. The bills that reach the president's desk will have to be signed off on by at least some dems. That's the way the system was supposed to work, but Harry Reid had a different idea.
    How can you comprimise on somthing like the Ryan budget?
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Sure it is--as long as you keep talking about 60 votes, tres borrachos .
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    Until Scott Brown was elected, but that isn't relevant to what I said either, Nimby.
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    GOPs haven't even learned to compromise with each other in the House.
    But their messaging war is second to none when turning that one around on Dems.
    And Dems only have themselves to blame for that .
    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    How can you compromise on something like the Ryan budget?
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Sure it is--as long as you keep talking about 60 votes, tres borrachos .
    I never posted the word "votes", Nimby. You need to reread my posts in this thread starting with my first one.
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    There is already legislation enacted for immigration. Neither Congress nor the president can override the other to make new laws or change old ones. The President must respect the law that is currently on the books. Not what law he or Congress might "want" to enact.
    Please tell us about this legislation .
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    Re: Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry that's not correct....article 1 grants congress general powers, their are no powers authorizing foreign aid.
    Congress is given the power to legislate and appropriate in Article One. There is no restriction against it in the original text, nor in any Amendment. Therefore Congress retains the power to legislate and appropriate for what is not prohibited - additionally, Article One, Section Eight gives Congress the sole power to regulate Commerce with Foreign Nations.
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