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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And for the love of all that is decent and ****ing holy, the U.S. would not have been able to do so without giving up immunity.
    To which Obama would have been savaged (correctly) by the Right for letting the incompetent and corrupt Iraqi judicial system have control.

    You can tell who is an extreme partisan by how they view the SOFA discussions.

    Obama literally does the same thing Bush does and it's not okay, but nary any criticism for Bush.

    IMO, Bush and Obama did the right thing by not putting our servicemen in the hands of the Iraqi Judiciary System.
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

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    I agree. We need to go in full force in Iraq and Syria, wipe out ISIL then take out Assad with the help of Turkey. End it all! Split Iraq into 3 separate nations, maintain a perpetual force in all 4 countries. It is the only way.
    And sustain lots of casualties and expose our military to more terrorist attacks in the decades to come? No, that is not the only way. If you want attacks on Americans to stop then the easiest and best way is to withdraw from the Middle East and let them sort their own problems out- our country is teetering on recession and we cannot afford to be the policeman of the world in order to prop up the oil and military industrial complexes.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    And sustain lots of casualties and expose our military to more terrorist attacks in the decades to come? No, that is not the only way. If you want attacks on Americans to stop then the easiest and best way is to withdraw from the Middle East and let them sort their own problems out- our country is teetering on recession and we cannot afford to be the policeman of the world in order to prop up the oil and military industrial complexes.


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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We broke it so we need to fix it!
    And it impacts us here. We are at war, even if we don't recognize it.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    And it impacts us here. We are at war, even if we don't recognize it.


    Yes, but what we are doing now--the bombings--is not getting the job done!

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Yes, but what we are doing now--the bombings--is not getting the job done!
    I agree-but our President does not care. He could act if he wanted to-but he doesn't want to. He would seriously rather let things go as they are if it means he can get out of office without doing anything substantive. In the mean time, a few token airstrikes (with low risk to our pilots but high visibility on the news) are just about what he wants.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I agree-but our President does not care. He could act if he wanted to-but he doesn't want to. He would seriously rather let things go as they are if it means he can get out of office without doing anything substantive. In the mean time, a few token airstrikes (with low risk to our pilots but high visibility on the news) are just about what he wants.


    I disagree. I think Obama is, at heart, a pacifist and truly does not want to see our young people back in another war. But it has to be done, IMO. It is only going to get worse if we don't take the bull by the horns

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I disagree. I think Obama is, at heart, a pacifist and truly does not want to see our young people back in another war. But it has to be done, IMO. It is only going to get worse if we don't take the bull by the horns
    If he was a pacifist he wouldnt have been so swift to arms in Syria and Libya. I dont think he wants war-but thats because he wanted getting out of Iraq to be his legacy (and the ACA). He pulled out to try to keep that image, but look at what that got us-now we have the crap choice of sitting by and watching ISIS grow (killing and raping children as they do) or going back in-and the cherry on top is the longer we wait the worse it will get.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I disagree. I think Obama is, at heart, a pacifist and truly does not want to see our young people back in another war. But it has to be done, IMO. It is only going to get worse if we don't take the bull by the horns
    Obama's strategy appears to be working well. In case you haven't noticed, ISIS is pretty much being defeated.

    I don't know what bull he should be taking by the horns. No point in sending American ground forces when the locals are getting the job done with the aid of a few airstrikes. ISIS was never a formidable foe, it was all media hype.
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