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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    I was an anthropology major in colledge.
    I have probably forgotten more than you actually know.
    That however is not what we are discussing.


    If you've forgotten it, then you can't talk about it, eh?

    Judging from your post it looks like one of the things that you've forgotten is how to spell.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    RIP.
    Life is cheap under ISIS, and Obama has allowed ISIS to flourish.
    These attacks will continue until our weak President decides to get serious.


    ISIS didn't exist before G.W. Bush invaded Iraq, which was no threat to the USA.

    The only country that gained anything from that war is Iran, which was glad to see its fellow Shia Muslims take power there.
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    So you are going to pretend the core Monotheism religions were always about peace. That is a laugh.
    That's not what I said. You should go read what I actually said and obviously what you said.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Your anthropology major should have come with the knowledge conclusively of our propensity for going to war over ideology, especially those based on systems of belief. Religions. It should have taught you overwhelmingly our human nature of being intentionally divisive along these lines and resorting to eventual violence to settle who is right.
    And again you completely missed any point I made. You are equating religion as always being involved or it's teachings being subversive. All of that is false. A false premise leads to a flawed conclusion as in your case.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    You can challenge all you would like that we have the philosophical, sociological, and even evolutionary means to avoid these things. But we have something holding us back at every step. Ideological religious differences. The entire history of humanity is plagued with this and all it took to make matters much worse was the establishment of community (in anthropological terms) rooted in systems of belief. You cannot claim anthropology taught you otherwise no matter what your personal system of belief is.

    Either you forgot too much from anthropology, or replaced it with a sunshine and roses view of humanity under religions.
    Well please... So far you have posted no evidence to support your claims. Your claims are narrow minded, overly simplified and false.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If you've forgotten it, then you can't talk about it, eh?

    Judging from your post it looks like one of the things that you've forgotten is how to spell.
    And this has anything to do with anything? Personal attacks are nothing but the refuge of those with no real argument.

    PS it was just a typo. Great argument. [/sarcasm]
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Much as I love pointing out the many flaws and weaknesses of Obama, I dont know what more Obama can do right now. He underestimated the threat of ISIS...sure. He mishandled the Iraqi troop pullout, screwed up the negotiation process which involved leaving a significant deterrent force in place, (ignoring even his own political advisers) true. But...after ISIS began rolling he engaged and is still engaging using really the only tools at his disposal. If he goes in full bore, guns blazing, people on the right will be critical of engaging. If he does nothing, people on the right will be critical of doing nothing. His Obots will defend him no matter what but many on the left will just accuse him of going to war to appease the eeeeevil right wing neocons. And as of this writing, the world doesnt appear to be lining up to help out. Realistically, the drone attacks and air strikes are his best option.
    The problem is that half-hearted measures like that won't be effective. And sending forces in piecemeal, as he's done, is very likely to get some of them killed while achieving nothing very important. This is an unmitigated disaster, and it is Mr. Obama's complete dereliction that's brought it about. Letting these jihadists stay where they are--and far more force than he's willing to use would be needed to drive them out--is inviting another attack even worse than 9/11. They have even more resources than Al Qaeda had during the years leading up to that, and as good a safe haven as they had in Afghanistan.

    Syria had large stocks of chemical weapons, and it is naive to think Assad, with his back to the wall, would have disclosed and removed any more than needed to give the appearance he was cooperating. The thought of a dozen suicides with flasks of sarin and VX spraying it around crowded public places all over the U.S. is a little unsettling. Disneyland, maybe?

    It's also possible that these jihadists could get anthrax weapons. We know Hussein's regime had learned the techniques for processing the germs into a form that would be militarily useful. About 6,000 liters of liquid anthrax culture were found and destroyed by international inspectors, along with processing machinery. Some of the people with that knowledge must be around, and there's no shortage of money to buy their help. And the raw materials needed did not disappear forever, just because a batch or two of them was destroyed years ago.

    When the U.S. had a biological weapons program, it had a study done of the probable effects of releasing one hundred kilos of weaponized anthrax powder from a cropduster flying upwind of a large city in weather conditions favorable for an attack. The dust was assumed to be released at a certain speed and altitude, during a certain number of seconds, while flying across the wind.

    The dust would settle everywhere, and many thousands of people would inhale small amounts of it--it does not take much. And this would happen for many hours or probably days, until the first cases appeared at hospitals and made people aware the anthrax was there. The study's conclusion was stunning--a well-designed attack like this could kill roughly as many people as a nuclear weapon exploded over the same city.

    Most of us hear light planes flying at night all the time, without having any idea where they are going, or who or what is on board. I've flown in a plane like that myself, at night over L.A. Nothing would prevent a plane from pulling out of a cropduster hangar a few dozen miles outside a city one night, and taking off with an unusual load. The whole thing would be done a few minutes later, and judging by the response on 9/11, it's very unlikely anyone would even know anything had happened, let alone react in time to stop it.

    Not to worry, though--the ship of state is safe and sound, with President Pinprick at the helm.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    One problem we have is that we cannot stop the terrorists. These movements go on and on. When I was a kid they were already targeting Americans. So we can wipe up the mess in Syria and Iraq for maybe $ 1/2 trillion.
    But we are not willing to do the nastiness necessary to quiet the bad guys for good
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    The only people who can clean up that neighborhood are the people who live in it. If they don't want to do it, we're wasting our time and money trying to help them.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What should he do? Lay out your strategy.
    Bomb the living **** out of every ISIS target we can find, then deploy 5 divisions to mop up what's left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    And this has anything to do with anything? Personal attacks are nothing but the refuge of those with no real argument.

    PS it was just a typo.
    Great argument. [/sarcasm]


    Try reading what you type before you post it.

    That works pretty good most of the time.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Bomb the living **** out of every ISIS target we can find, then deploy 5 divisions to mop up what's left.
    Not realistic. We can't just go a' bombing. That is not the answer to everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Bomb the living **** out of every ISIS target we can find,
    then deploy 5 divisions to mop up what's left.


    Who's going to do the clean-up after the clean-up?

    If we bomb them back into the stone age those who survive will be killing each other with clubs and stones.
    Last edited by shrubnose; 11-16-14 at 11:46 AM.

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