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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Five Americans beheaded so far this year during the Obama administration.

    If we count beheadings in the CONUS by Muslims it's six.

    6 1/2 weeks still left in the year.

    I wonder what the total number will be at the end of the year ?

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Five Americans beheaded so far this year during the Obama administration.

    If we count beheadings in the CONUS by Muslims it's six.

    6 1/2 weeks still left in the year.

    I wonder what the total number will be at the end of the year ?
    Too many.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Yeah, that fee speech thingy can be a real bitch when you won't consider the content....Obama a military strategist....


    seriously?
    I don't remember ever calling him a military strategist. That's why presidents have generals.

    Perhaps you can explain to me why a beheading under Bush is no big deal but under Obama it's obviously a sign of incompetence and timidity?

    And I don't know who told you that the first amendment prevents you from being criticized on the internet, but you might want to reread it.

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im sorry but you are mistaken. I am not POTUS. I can criticize away as I see fit, it does NOT make my criticism invalid.

    The FACT here, is we have a POTUS unable to do anything substantive. This will likely not change unless there is another major US attack, or a new POTUS is elected in 2016. Which means no definitive response until 2017 at the earliest.

    Obama has willingly left our former allies alone, and he's allowed a TERRORIST STATE to aggressively grow across Asia and Africa. Thats real.
    I think it's fascinating that you think things occur in a vacuum with no historical context whatseover. ISIS formed under Bush and Americans were dying about 100x faster than they are now.

    I know it's easy for you to cry from your arm chair about how our soldiers should be forever in combat, but if you feel like something should be done you can do it your god damn self. If only we were still in Iraq, then Americans everywhere would be safe! What kind of idiotic fantasy world do you live in?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Five Americans beheaded so far this year during the Obama administration.

    If we count beheadings in the CONUS by Muslims it's six.

    6 1/2 weeks still left in the year.

    I wonder what the total number will be at the end of the year ?
    Do you think it'll be more or less than the 4,000 soldiers that died in Iraq? Do soldiers' lives hold zero value to you? Why don't they count?

    From 2003 to 2008 we had anywhere from 400-900 deaths a month, and you're over here implying that we should relaunch the war because of 6 murdered people? Screw our military, send those bitches back, amiright? Who cares since you're too old to go back.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I think it's fascinating that you think things occur in a vacuum with no historical context whatseover. ISIS formed under Bush and Americans were dying about 100x faster than they are now.

    I know it's easy for you to cry from your arm chair about how our soldiers should be forever in combat, but if you feel like something should be done you can do it your god damn self. If only we were still in Iraq, then Americans everywhere would be safe! What kind of idiotic fantasy world do you live in?
    I understand the context just fine. And I understand that your silly comments dont change that our hard fought victory in Iraq was squandered, and now will likely have to be fought again. And Iraq, is just part of the war on terror-who said a victory there would mean "Americans everywhere would be safe"? I didn't. What you are doing, is fighting men of straw.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Five Americans beheaded so far this year during the Obama administration.

    If we count beheadings in the CONUS by Muslims it's six.

    6 1/2 weeks still left in the year.

    I wonder what the total number will be at the end of the year ?
    That's why they do it. That's the same kind of thing that cost us Vietnam.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I understand the context just fine. And I understand that your silly comments dont change that our hard fought victory in Iraq was squandered, and now will likely have to be fought again. And Iraq, is just part of the war on terror-who said a victory there would mean "Americans everywhere would be safe"? I didn't. What you are doing, is fighting men of straw.
    If Iraq was a "huge victory" it wouldn't have fallen the **** apart when we followed Bush's timeline to leave Iraq. I see through you now. 900 US casualties a year is no problem at all, but if 6 people are beheaded under Obama we should relaunch the war.

    I'm sorry, the military is not your personal pawn force.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If Iraq was a "huge victory" it wouldn't have fallen the **** apart when we followed Bush's timeline to leave Iraq. I see through you now. 900 US casualties a year is no problem at all, but if 6 people are beheaded under Obama we should relaunch the war.

    I'm sorry, the military is not your personal pawn force.
    Quit poking holes in his arguments. He thinks the Iraqis wanted us back even though they wanted to deny the US extraterritoriality and if it weren't for Obama, they would have given it to us. That meddling Obama! Following Bush's withdrawal plan and then refusing to make our troops subject to Iraqi laws!

    It's probably not as funny as Jack Hays' belief that what unnamed sources thought was going to happen is relevant to international agreements. Making him double down on his ridiculous arguments by claiming that the language of the agreement is not as relevant as what some unnamed source in some NYT piece wanted was better though.

    You can't make up their simplistic interpretation of events. US Conservative honestly thinks Iraq was peaceful when we left in 2008. Can you imagine? Iraq had the same level casualties in 2008 as it did in 2003. Was 2003 a peaceful year for Iraq?
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If Iraq was a "huge victory" it wouldn't have fallen the **** apart when we followed Bush's timeline to leave Iraq. I see through you now. 900 US casualties a year is no problem at all, but if 6 people are beheaded under Obama we should relaunch the war.

    I'm sorry, the military is not your personal pawn force.
    Oh, my friend, I am sorry but it is his personal pawn force.

    You see, he is (probably) a Neocon. And they use the United States military like a hypochondriac uses Aspirin...to try and fix every little problem. And, like Aspirin, there are always more soldiers (and tax dollars) that the government can sacrifice to fulfill their personal - oops, sorry - 'patriotic' ends.

    Imo, Neocons (in general) are doing FAR more harm to America then ISIS could ever dream of doing by going around the world, making neutrals out of friends and enemies out of neutrals, all the while costing America gigantic sums of money and precious, brave American blood (not to mention a sh!t load of innocent civilian blood).

    Anyone who actually thinks America is safer now then they were the day after 9-11 is STAGGERINGLY delusional on this subject. America is FAR weaker, far more broke and far more hated then it was before that first airliner slammed into the tower.
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If Iraq was a "huge victory" it wouldn't have fallen the **** apart when we followed Bush's timeline to leave Iraq. I see through you now. 900 US casualties a year is no problem at all, but if 6 people are beheaded under Obama we should relaunch the war.

    I'm sorry, the military is not your personal pawn force.
    You quoted the phrase "huge victory", who were you referring to?
    That wasn't me and I wonder why you would suggest I said something I did not.
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Oh, my friend, I am sorry but it is his personal pawn force.

    You see, he is (probably) a Neocon. And they use the United States military like a hypochondriac uses Aspirin...to try and fix every little problem. And, like Aspirin, there are always more soldiers that the government can sacrifice to fulfill their personal - oops, sorry - 'patriotic' ends.

    Imo, Neocons (in general) are doing FAR more harm to America then ISIS could ever dream of doing by going around the world, making neutrals out of friends and enemies out of neutrals, all the while costing America gigantic sums of money and precious, brave American blood (not to mention a sh!t load of innocent civilian blood).

    Anyone who actually thinks America is safer now then they were the day after 9-11 is STAGGERINGLY delusional on this subject.
    Its amusing to me that liberals who see the military as a means to forcibly implement social change see ISIS as a trivial issue to be pursued "like a hypochondriac uses Aspirin".

    Your logic is flawed.

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