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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    "This is is a job for the Army supported by the Air Force. Before that happens we need to determine what is in this nation's interest.

    We can stop our attack on Americans in this country by shutting down the Soviet-style EPA. We can increase our energy production here so we have less need to be involved in the Middle East. We can protect our electric grid from ground attack.

    And we can choose to leave Americans who have been captured by terrorist organizations to be tortured and beheaded.

    It is up to us."
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    Or the US can chose from this time forward to fix the errors made in the Middle East and eventually win back the trust and admiration of it's people.
    How?

    Drill here. Drill now. Build pipelines. Stop destroying the coal industry. Build more nuclear power plants.

    Anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the gist of the issue isn't it? A sizeable percentage of the Republican electorate were all in favor of withdrawing in 2011.



    Three in Four Americans Back Obama on Iraq Withdrawal



    In 2008, Republicans refused avoided the Iraq war like the plague because they knew the American populace was against it. Now they're in support of going back to fix the cluster**** started by the Bush administration? Seems like there are a lot of fairweather Republican supporters of the Iraq war. However, there isn't much Obama can do about what's going on in Iraq. Most Arab countries are useless, the coalition of the willing peaced out as far back as 2007 and Americans will support going back to Iraq as long as the caskets aren't piling up. Once they do, they'll believe we need to get out again.
    Everybody is lost. They dont know what side to take until after he has actually acted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If you can't objectively criticize bad foreign policy ( Obama pulling ALL American Military assets out of Iraq against the better judgement of those around him who knew better ) because it contradicts with your Political affiliation then maybe you should stay put in the Partisan section of the forum.
    Bad foreign policy is setting up a house of cards in Iraq in the first place. A house of cards in a hurricane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    You should also recognize that Obama was gifted with a huge pile of dung left over by Bush... Afghanistan, Iraq and an economy in complete shambles. The Obama Administration certainly made their share of mistakes, but nothing short of Jesus could have managed to wholly fix what a mass **** up they inherited.
    If he wasn't up to the job he should not have asked for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Poor poor Obama is just a slave to politics, isn't he?

    Americans have no confidence in Obama when it comes to terrorism, look at polling. Look at the election week before last.
    He could be a rock star doing a great job and I would place money on you feeling the same way about him. Dont worry...you have lots of company. thats how most democrats responded to Bush.

    Im not a 'fan'...but at some point you have to look past the politics and act. Look at what many are suggesting here. Obama is wrong for engaging, he isnt engaging enough, no one would support him if we engaged more, and I guess we'll have to wait til the next president is elected.

    Really? So...rather than support proactive measures being taken right now it would be preferable to do nothing for 2 years?

    I dont think Obama handled the Iraqi troop withdrawal well. I think Bush did a great job with the war against Iraq and Afghanistan but did a lousy job of negotiating the peace. Now what?

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    All we need to do is spread the word that ISIS consists mainly of Conservative Republicans. The regime attacks Conservatives with energy and zeal. The Islamofascist supporter on the golf course is never likely to attack his psychological allies with a goal of defeating them.
    He already said we cling bitterly to guns and religion. This wont be much of a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Bad foreign policy is setting up a house of cards in Iraq in the first place. A house of cards in a hurricane.
    The only house of cards in a hurricane is this one...

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If he wasn't up to the job he should not have asked for it.
    Seems to me like he fixed just about everything except for the Middle East, which is not America's to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He could be a rock star doing a great job and I would place money on you feeling the same way about him. Dont worry...you have lots of company. thats how most democrats responded to Bush.

    Im not a 'fan'...but at some point you have to look past the politics and act. Look at what many are suggesting here. Obama is wrong for engaging, he isnt engaging enough, no one would support him if we engaged more, and I guess we'll have to wait til the next president is elected.

    Really? So...rather than support proactive measures being taken right now it would be preferable to do nothing for 2 years?

    I dont think Obama handled the Iraqi troop withdrawal well. I think Bush did a great job with the war against Iraq and Afghanistan but did a lousy job of negotiating the peace. Now what?
    What now? We focus on what NEEDS to be done, and thats boots on the ground, not a dog an pony show of airstrikes that aren't definitive.
    In medicine, you treat the cause of the problems-and the symptoms resolve.
    ISIS is a symptom of a weak leader who WONT act. Said another way, this dog wont hunt.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Seems to me like he fixed just about everything except for the Middle East, which is not America's to fix.

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