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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Using a new label du jour for those bad guys wanting to establish a caliphate changes nothing. Iraq is wide open because Iraq is no longer under the thumb of a powerful dictator with a strong security force. Our acting as that strong security force "works" only so long as we keep doing so. There is no exit strategy for Iraq, just as there is none for Afghanistan - Vietnamization does not work.
    "Exit Strategy" is a recent term coined by those determined to lose and retreat. It is the enemy who should be considering an exit strategy, not the winners.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It worked like a arm during WW2. We attacked the **** out of Facism. How much are the facists laughing, now?

    We had the jihadists on the run, until we broke off the attack.
    The fascists, along with every other form of authoritarian statist (national socialists, international socialists, liberals, progressives) are in charge. Have you noticed the Environmental Protection Agency? It has a Soviet-style de-industrialization plan for the US. It is fascist. Have you seen the magnitude and depth of the US regulatory environment. It is fascist.

    The One on the golf course and his crony capitalist buddies are laughing at us and their stupid followers.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Under Obama its grown to a defacto state, complete with its own govt structure, education and healthcare system and territory.


    Did you buy any ISIS postage stamps yet?

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    "Exit Strategy" is a recent term coined by those determined to lose and retreat. It is the enemy who should be considering an exit strategy, not the winners.
    That sounds so wonderful but how, exactly, does one win by propping up a corrupt regime that is the target of the enemy? We won, militarily, in Vietnam yet what did we win, other than the need to stay forever?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Under Obama its grown to a defacto state, complete with its own govt structure, education and healthcare system and territory.
    OK, can we actually attack Iraq (as a nation under its new flag) now?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The fascists, along with every other form of authoritarian statist (national socialists, international socialists, liberals, progressives) are in charge. Have you noticed the Environmental Protection Agency? It has a Soviet-style de-industrialization plan for the US. It is fascist. Have you seen the magnitude and depth of the US regulatory environment. It is fascist. The One on the golf course and his crony capitalist buddies are laughing at us and their stupid followers.
    You mentioned the EPA but even most of those you name wouldn't laugh if they had a clue as to what's going on. Power Plant Closures - IER

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    OK, can we actually attack Iraq (as a nation under its new flag) now?
    No need. They will come to you.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That sounds so wonderful but how, exactly, does one win by propping up a corrupt regime that is the target of the enemy? We won, militarily, in Vietnam yet what did we win, other than the need to stay forever?
    What 'propping up' are you referring to?

    There are still no lessons learned from Vietnam.

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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What 'propping up' are you referring to?

    There are still no lessons learned from Vietnam.
    Training and arming foreign forces not under our command/control in a civil war. The stated missions in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The problem with entering into someone's civil war is that you must pick the side that can be trusted to have a chance to win in the end or help to wipe them both out.
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    Re: US hostage Kassig 'killed by IS'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Training and arming foreign forces not under our command/control in a civil war.
    So you are talking about ISIS in Iraq now and not in 2100. I wasn't sure what 'corrupt regime you were referring to because, in the ME, there is no other kind.
    The stated missions in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The problem with entering into someone's civil war is that you must pick the side that can be trusted to have a chance to win in the end or help to wipe them both out.
    Islamism is a great deal more than 'a civil war'. Just this thread should alert everyone to that.

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