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George Bush Interview- Hannity

I offered clarification to your post from the Daily ****ing Mail, and my stalkers couldn't resist jumping in and taking a big steamer all over your thread. Get pissy with them, not me.

That was fine and I had no problem with that, but you should have left it at that. If what they post bothers, you keep the conversation going about the topic, not about them or their posting habits or attacking them personally. This is general knowledge around here. You and your 17,000+ posts should know that by now. Get over it.

I mainly posted the daily mail for the picture of Obama's Brother's living arrangements. Not the content.
 
He was raised on Marxist theory by the women in his life and his grandparents. I see daily the problems that people raised without a fatherly presence end up having. Im not saying that his his fault, but like many inner city youth there are problems with empathy, boundaries, etc.

People say Obama is coming across as a spoiled child, perhaps this is why. I think even from a young age, Obama was calculating and his relationship with Michelle probably reflects that.

I have no objection to any of that, but have to clarify one point, Obama does not appear spoiled, he is spoiled.
 
Actually I don't think so. Most people now have a luke-warm feeling about Bush, but that might just be because Obama is dong bad now. The left wing nuts are being drowned out. Bush's legacy will remain intact, as long as he keeps to his message.

so long as everyone forgets about invading Iraq based on lies and tanking the economy. He's not a bad guy but his legacy is in the toilet no matter how much GOP spin there is.
 
We can agree to disagree on this. BTW, Bush was not the only President to lead us into a war based on lies. The Tonkin Gulf Resolution, signed by President Johnson, that got us mired in Vietnam, was based on an attack that never happened.

And the Spanish American war in the lie about the sinking of the Maine.
 
Never ceases to amaze me. Even in a thread about a Republican president being interviewed on a right-wing network, the usual retrograde hacks line up to whine about Obama some more.

You guys won't know what to do when he's gone. You're literally obsessed with him.

Remember how they went after Clinton like rabid dogs then when Obama became prez they were saying "Man at least Clinton was this..." and would go on as if they liked the guy? That's what's gonna happen should Hillary become president. They'll go on about how so extreme she is that Obama was a decent president to them. Partisan hacks are predictable hacks.
 
He's the leader of the Democrat party, and the most left wing POTUS in US history.

whomever is the current democratic president is the "most left wing POTUS in US history" to hacks. Nevermind that FDR New Deal thing. Far more lefty than what this prez has done.
 
LOL! You really do take this Dear Leader stuff seriously.

"Dear Leader" for what... the third time? Look at you trolling. Aren't you cute.
 
whomever is the current democratic president is the "most left wing POTUS in US history" to hacks. Nevermind that FDR New Deal thing. Far more lefty than what this prez has done.

FDR is certainly up there as well, as is Wilson. But, for example I dont consider Clinton to be very far to the left.
 
Actually, Bush wasn't that bad of a guy until he became president. That's when he got conned by the Neocons. He wasn't a bad Governor for Texas, and was well known for reaching across party lines to get things done here. The best thing that Bush did while President was to kick the Neocons to the curb during that last part of his second term. But it was too late. The Neocons ruined any kind of a legacy that Bush might have had, and he will long be remembered as the President who started a war based on lies.

Depends on how you want to ascribe neoconservative influence. If you mean foreign policy decisions, I think most of them won't stand up positively (except for perhaps his Africa policy).

If you mean domestic policy neoconservatism, I think there's some good stuff here:
-No Child Left Behind (Built from his father's Goals 2000, in a sense continued with Race to the Top under Obama--has many problems, but is important to keep)
-IDEA 2004 (Which, among other things, tied NCLB in emphasizing students with disabilities' academic achievement needed to be payed attention to more thoroughly than in the past)
-Faith-based initiatives (which still continue to this day)
-Medicare Part D (Still here)
-Bioethics Committee (even if it was summarily dismissed by the Obama administration)
-Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act
 
FDR is certainly up there as well, as is Wilson. But, for example I dont consider Clinton to be very far to the left.

Bill Clinton is the only Presidential Candidate I would vote for in the Democratic Party. Maybe Joe Biden if he wasn't such a blabbering fool all the time. Those are the only two people I can stand in the party.
 
Depends on how you want to ascribe neoconservative influence. If you mean foreign policy decisions, I think most of them won't stand up positively (except for perhaps his Africa policy).

If you mean domestic policy neoconservatism, I think there's some good stuff here:
-No Child Left Behind (Built from his father's Goals 2000, in a sense continued with Race to the Top under Obama--has many problems, but is important to keep)
-IDEA 2004 (Which, among other things, tied NCLB in emphasizing students with disabilities' academic achievement needed to be payed attention to more thoroughly than in the past)
-Faith-based initiatives (which still continue to this day)
-Medicare Part D (Still here)
-Bioethics Committee (even if it was summarily dismissed by the Obama administration)
-Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act

Now you are talking about policy most of which the general public has long forgotten about and only those in political circles remember.
 
FDR is certainly up there as well, as is Wilson. But, for example I dont consider Clinton to be very far to the left.

Meanwhile back in 1996 he Clinton was a socialist Maoist Marxist. Easily the "most left wing POTUS in US history" if you ask a Republican then.
 
Now you are talking about policy most of which the general public has long forgotten about and only those in political circles remember.

That's a mixed record, to be honest. Frankly, I care more about what "those in political circles remember" more than I do the general public.

They haven't forgotten NCLB, most American's don't know the ADA let alone IDEA-so I'm not concerned about that, the hoopla over faith-based initiatives was largely a left-wing fantasy, Medicare Part D was good, the Bioethics committee went in directions unconventional for the time (and since), Bush's Africa aid venture was widely praised in the early years of the Obama administration.
 
Meanwhile back in 1996 he Clinton was a socialist Maoist Marxist. Easily the "most left wing POTUS in US history" if you ask a Republican then.

Seriously? None of my conservative friends and myself thought that.
 
Seriously? None of my conservative friends and myself thought that.

Of course not.

Except these were the papers being written back then...

WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON...
America’s First Communist President

"Bill Clinton Much More Than A "Stealth" Communist President: He Is An Illuminist"

Correspondent J.R. Nyquist, writing in World Net Daily, recounts how he was told in 1982, when he was still in college, that Bill Clinton was picked to be a "stealth" Marxist President. While we welcome this revelation, we will demonstrate that the issue goes far above and beyond Clinton being a Communist. It is much more serious than that.​



Communist
Murderer of around 80 people
Draft dodger
Liar

All these are just conveniently... pooof... forgotten in modern memories for some reason.
 
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Not with Wilson and FDR. Be real......

Exactly. I agree. As you see above where I said US Conservative's notion that Obama is the most socialist president in US history. My retort was "really? more than FDR?" And he doubled down.
 
Bill Clinton is the only Presidential Candidate I would vote for in the Democratic Party. Maybe Joe Biden if he wasn't such a blabbering fool all the time. Those are the only two people I can stand in the party.

I think slick willy is done with running for office-you will have to settle for Hillary. :lol:
 
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